Raid Rule Madness

[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is golden throwing a jav a full twenty seconds after the intial FTE message? Probably because it was either a mistake or he thought aggro dropped at that instant and took a gamble to secure FTE (dragon movement is hard to judge). Since he took a gamble and failed, TMO hardly has room to complain about an extended FTE.

this part is my fav

Poor lil Golden had the best and most sincere intentions when he threw that Jav.....you CANT BLAME HIM!!!!!!!!

bias much?

also the AE/Fear doesnt put you on the hate list.....Theya could have ran circles around the 150 people at the TT zone and none of them would have been on the hate list unless they did something to get the dragons attention

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by TMBLOW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this part is my fav

Poor lil Golden had the best and most sincere intentions when he threw that Jav.....you CANT BLAME HIM!!!!!!!!

bias much?

also the AE/Fear doesnt put you on the hate list.....Theya could have ran circles around the 150 people at the TT zone and none of them would have been on the hate list unless they did something to get the dragons attention

Why wouldn't an FTE-er throw a jav to try and get FTE? You know there is no "FTE WAS LOST" message, right?

I do believe this calls for a derp.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by TMBLOW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poor lil Golden had the best and most sincere intentions when he threw that Jav.....you CANT BLAME HIM!!!!!!!!

You missed the point. Why does it matter at all?

"the reason most of those people were even on the aggro list to begin with was that taken actually broke another raid rule - they trained the dragon"

This also seems laregly irrelevant, as theya, as i understand it, never lost aggro; therefore, the dragon "wasn't trained." Part of the reason why this has probably been a confusing issue to deal with by GM's, are that the guilds themselves bringing the complaint don't have a clue either. Continual hammering of this point only causes confusion as to the real issues.

Dolic

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"the reason most of those people were even on the aggro list to begin with was that taken actually broke another raid rule - they trained the dragon"

This also seems laregly irrelevant, as theya, as i understand it, never lost aggro; therefore, the dragon "wasn't trained." Part of the reason why this has probably been a confusing issue to deal with by GM's, are that the guilds themselves bringing the complaint don't have a clue either. Continual hammering of this point only causes confusion as to the real issues.

Dolic

you can call it a pull if you want, but the issue doesn't change. you're not allowed to set up your camp on top of someone else's raid. when you pull your target ontop of someone else's raid, you are effectively training them, independent of whether or not you are successful.

taken broke several rules on this pull.

Originally Posted by Just facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That clearly showed that the Taken guild FTE player was 11 sec ahead of the next FTE attempt to attack the dragon before TMO.

because everybody else was respecting the FTE message. lol.