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[Musetii]

Derubael already stated that he'd rather red99 slowly deteriorate and die than open the floor for talks about a wipe. But then again, money talks. Donate more to become relevant.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Musetii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael already stated that he'd rather red99 slowly deteriorate and die than open the floor for talks about a wipe. But then again, money talks. Donate more to become relevant.

Not just me - Rogean, Nilbog, and Sirken have all stated they will never wipe either box.

Wipe box - > 3-6 months down the road we are in the exact same situation with the exact same people. The people who don't play here will continue to not play here for the same reasons. The people who leave will continue to leave for the same reasons. The people who stay will stay for the same reasons.

It will be great for like a month. Then a vocal minority will be calling for a wipe again (yes, wipe committee, you guys are a vocal minority.)

[Musetii]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not just me - Rogean, Nilbog, and Sirken have all stated they will never wipe either box.

Wipe box - > 3-6 months down the road we are in the exact same situation with the exact same people. The people who don't play here will continue to not play here for the same reasons. The people who leave will continue to leave for the same reasons. The people who stay will stay for the same reasons.

It will be great for like a month. Then a vocal minority will be calling for a wipe again (yes, wipe committee, you guys are a vocal minority.)

Negative. This current box has seen enough server changes for a wipe to be necessary. That alone is worth the wipe, not to mention other brought up issues like rmt and guild limit size + whatever arguments the majority of the population has.