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Old 08-13-2014, 05:14 PM
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If you bring kids into this world, and take on a spouse who depends on you, yes I believe you have a duty to stay around. You may hurt, but dammit seek help, especially from those closest to you.
You may take your own life, but you will ruin others that you cherish so much. I grew up with Robin Williams and am very sad about his suicide. But when it comes down to it, for me you take on the responsibility when you make the call to propagate and marry.

Having suffered depression myself, its no light topic indeed.

I hope he finds rest, and his family can find comfort and solace.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:27 PM
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If you bring kids into this world, and take on a spouse who depends on you, yes I believe you have a duty to stay around.
It's not like he left infants, his children are full grown adults and I'm pretty sure that his wife was as well.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:33 PM
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It's not like he left infants, his children are full grown adults and I'm pretty sure that his wife was as well.
Adults or not, in my world the family bond just becomes stronger from birth to grave.
I am pretty sure it has absolutely crushed them and changed their lives forever. No one in their right mind would want that.

It's hard enough losing someone to natural causes you love, suicide makes it 10x worse in my experience, having lost a very good friend to the very thing.

Thus seek help, especially from those close to you if you can. Hopefully they will see your need and pain.

Its not debatable in my book if you think suicide is ok, we are on 2 different planes thought wise.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:39 PM
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I am pretty sure it has absolutely crushed them and changed their lives forever. No one in their right mind would want that.
The whole point is that it's not about what other people want. Expecting somebody to continue living in pain just because other people don't want them gone is ridiculous.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:42 PM
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The whole point is that it's not about what other people want. Expecting somebody to continue living in pain just because other people don't want them gone is ridiculous.
Its actually not though.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:46 PM
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Its actually not though.
Except it is.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:50 PM
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Except it is.
The person that takes their life is the only one who will never have to live with that choice.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:53 PM
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pretty sure he did seek help, it doesnt cure you 100 % just makes you feel better, rehab and all, we have no idea what he was mentally going through and it must have been alot, crazy pills just make it worse over time and are for only the really insane people who cant even do anything without harming others without them
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:46 PM
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The whole point is that it's not about what other people want. Expecting somebody to continue living in pain just because other people don't want them gone is ridiculous.
Ok, I challenge you. Walk in to your group of close family if you have one (no insult intended if you do not) ask them how they would truly feel if you committed suicide.

Spend and hour, reflect on their reactions, and then decide.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:53 PM
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Ok, I challenge you. Walk in to your group of close family if you have one (no insult intended if you do not) ask them how they would truly feel if you committed suicide.

Spend and hour, reflect on their reactions, and then decide.
I don't have to, I've had people commit and attempt suicide as well. You do not have a unique perspective on the issue.

I could say the same to you, though. Go ask a group of your close family how long they would expect you to continue living in mental or physical anguish, how long they would place more importance on themselves than the fact that you are unhappy and in pain.
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