Police Officers

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you know one, remind him how worthless he is. If you are one, kill yourself.

Your job is to enforce laws whose justice is not necessarily guaranteed. Your oath specifically precludes the option that you protect and serve the people -- you're a slave to the corrupt legislators that permeate our country. The law's letter comes first, even if it entails limiting my freedom. Hell, your job is to enforce unjust laws that predate your fucking birth (prohibition, et al), throwing children in jail and dooming them to a life on society's underbelly for exercising control over their bodies.

You are the enforcer the Christian majority mafia needs to impose its moral "authority" into my life. You are the threat (or act) of violence despots require to keep the population enslaved. You're a sellout, a scab, and a shirker of civic duty.

Fuck you.

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Stop your fucking whining already [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[XDrake]

Bet I know who you'll call when somebody is breaking into your home. :P

[Thelastaxi]

Originally Posted by XDrake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bet I know who you'll call when somebody is breaking into your home. :P

You see, thats the police's job, not breaking faces at legitimate protests and being an all-around nazi brownshirt.

[Japan]

Bet I know who you'll call when somebody is breaking into your home. :P

My Remington 870 will be the first responder. Then I will notify the police that there is a dying animal in my house, and they can haul it off at their leisure.

Contrary to what you imply, no responsible man would rely on sticky-fingered fuckups to find his house and defend it in an emergency situation. It seems clear from this statement that you place yourself at the mercy of criminals and our broken justice system, though, and I pity you.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My Remington 870 will be the first responder. Then I will notify the police that there is a dying animal in my house, and they can haul it off at their leisure.

Contrary to what you imply, no responsible man would rely on sticky-fingered fuckups to find his house and defend it in an emergency situation. It seems clear from this statement that you place yourself at the mercy of criminals and our broken justice system, though, and I pity you.

Actually, he just stated that he knows who he would call. At no time did it ever state that HE would call them. Not really the clarity you claim.

[Abacab niggah]

I'm a fan of dismantling police forces since they are extensions of local government (I.E hired through city planners) and hiring private contractors for security. Since they would no longer be under the pay-roll of the government but instead the pay-roll of private citizens it creates a lot less instances of corruption.

What I envision is dividing the city into sections and take bids on what security firm wants to have a presence in each block, and have competing bids. Because of the naturalistic tendencies of a business they will do their job with utmost efficiency or risk losing the bid and their income.

This also allows for the block to routinely vote as a community whether or not the force is to be ejected or replaced based on performance. For example if the current force is stopping rapes from happening in your city block then one could say they're doing an exemplary job, if the current force is sitting on their ass citing people for going 2 over the speed limit whilst other issues take precedence one could say they need to be replaced.

Since police forces do not have this type of democratic process, they're tightly nursed by a system that only offers up suspensions with no citizen output in the process. So a bad cop can be a bad cop all the way into retirement without any sort of check and balance on his character.

I would like to try a social experiment to try this out, but I don't think it could ever be fully backed.

[Kassel]

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I'm a fan of dismantling police forces since they are extensions of local government (I.E hired through city planners) and hiring private contractors for security. Since they would no longer be under the pay-roll of the government but instead the pay-roll of private citizens it creates a lot less instances of corruption.

What I envision is dividing the city into sections and take bids on what security firm wants to have a presence in each block, and have competing bids. Because of the naturalistic tendencies of a business they will do their job with utmost efficiency or risk losing the bid and their income.

This also allows for the block to routinely vote as a community whether or not the force is to be ejected or replaced based on performance. For example if the current force is stopping rapes from happening in your city block then one could say they're doing an exemplary job, if the current force is sitting on their ass citing people for going 2 over the speed limit whilst other issues take precedence one could say they need to be replaced.

Since police forces do not have this type of democratic process, they're tightly nursed by a system that only offers up suspensions with no citizen output in the process. So a bad cop can be a bad cop all the way into retirement without any sort of check and balance on his character.

I would like to try a social experiment to try this out, but I don't think it could ever be fully backed.

This is an interesting idea, however can you explain how you would get rid of the "free rider" problem? The "free rider" is the true reason why taxes and goverment exist. Why would i pay for a road/service that would help everyone when i can just wait for my neighbour to buck up?

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by Abacab *****h [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a fan of dismantling police forces since they are extensions of local government (I.E hired through city planners) and hiring private contractors for security. Since they would no longer be under the pay-roll of the government but instead the pay-roll of private citizens it creates a lot less instances of corruption.

I'll assume this is a troll, since even though liberals are retarded enough to believe something this stupid, this idea would be against their ideology. If this is not a troll, please explain how putting all sanctioned armed power in the hands of the rich people in a neighborhood is a good idea. If you think cops in narcotics are on the take now, just wait till their official salary is paid for by the richest drug dealers in the area.


You faggoty ivory tower liberals have no clue what you are talking about when you talk about the justice system. You see a few bleeding heart movies, and allow your weak minds to be indoctrinated by others who have no clue what they are talking about, and you feel justified in drawing conclusions about something without providing any statistics or real arguments, just conclusory statements.

The only problem with our justice system is we let criminals go. If we immediately executed all criminals after their 3rd felony, w/o any appeals, crime would quickly dry up. Life imprisonment would also help things a lot, but of course would be much more expensive than the extermination of the offenders.

About 98% of Americans will never spend a single day in jail. The other 2% are the problem, and they cannot be deterred or reformed. They can only be exterminated or locked away.

Some stats from http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17:

"Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 states in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime."

"These offenders had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release."


Look at that last paragraph again: 272,111 had been arrested 4.1 million times before that year, with another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release. That is over 17 arrests per person... And that is only what they got caught doing, imagine how many other felonies were committed before they were stupid enough to get caught again.

Anything else you want to blame for the system's "problems" pale in comparison with this. And the fault does not lie with the justice system, it lies with the legislative and judicial branches that refuse to do what needs to be done due to faggotry and pussification.

[Stanlei]

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[Karrmer]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My Remington 870 will be the first responder. Then I will notify the police that there is a dying animal in my house, and they can haul it off at their leisure.

Contrary to what you imply, no responsible man would rely on sticky-fingered fuckups to find his house and defend it in an emergency situation. It seems clear from this statement that you place yourself at the mercy of criminals and our broken justice system, though, and I pity you.

I work 9-1-1 dispatch for one of the largest agencies in the United States. I also am not a big fan of law enforcement, honestly, but I get paid well to primarily help people.

We get a surprisingly large number of calls for serious life threatening events - home invasion robberies, carjacking, rape, murder, etc. I then dispatch these to law enforcement who help these people. To genuinely believe that having no law enforcement presence would create a better society, particularly in the one we live in, is fucking insane. You're insane.

There are plenty of "bad cops" and douchebags, assholes, etc. But even the douchebags and assholes are there to help people when the shit goes down. I'd love to see how your life goes if we managed to make a fantasy world where one could create an exemption on your house so that there was no law and anyone could break in, murder you, rape you, and do anything they pleased in your personal property because law enforcement no longer had any jurisdiction over it. You'd be dead in days, mister "LOL I HAVE A PISTOL" idiotic hardass. Good luck on that when you have four dudes in ski masks and assault rifles pulling a classic home invasion, you fucking nerd.