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Old 09-29-2010, 08:47 AM
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Ok, I recommend starting a list of good places to bard kite. The most recommended spot for bard AE kiting is aviaks starting at around L19-23ish. This doesn't help someone like me who is only L9. So, I'm going to start my leveling list:

1-5 Newbie area. You won't be kiting much, you don't have selos and chanting could cause more harm than good due to MOB density.

5-7 Orc Hill in GFay. Spot #1 from this map of GFay. Group or lull to pull solos. If solo try to avoid oracles. Again you may not be actually kiting a whole lot.

7-8 I recommend the bandit camp in GFay. Spot #3 from this map of GFay. I grouped in CB, but the grouping was hit or miss. Here is where you can begin to actually start your career bard kiting; you'll finally have selos, so you can begin the process of learning to swap instruments and twisting chords/selos/hymn (as needed). Also, by L9, the bandit exp is a bit on the slow side.

9+ I found two nice camps of higher level CB Orc Centurions in LFay. Spots #6 & 11 on this map of LFay. At 9, I have been pulling one whole camp and twisting it down with chords and selos, adding hymn as necessary. However, as I'm still learning the exactness of turning in for chords range, I am dieing quite frequently. If I pull each camp as two pulls, I could probably clear both camps before respawns and just about never die. I will probably spend a few levels here as the orcs /CON Dark Blue to the occasional yellow. As I get better at kiting I may try to kite both camps together.

19-23 Aviaks in SK. I believe its Spot #9 from this map of SK.

I have subscribed to this awesome tome of bardic knowledge and will try to keep this thread up to date with good bard kite locations.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:45 AM
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I have nothing to add other than the fact that I think this is an excellent thread (minus all of the bickering).

Being a low level bard, I had tried kiting and noticed the hitbox issues and had almost given up to re-roll as a necromancer (the class I am at heart) before rereading this thread and learning about the zig-zag trick to overcome the issue, so thanks a bunch! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:31 AM
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You had to invs or break charm before your pet started running. If you break charm after your pet begins to run, you won't recieve any EXP. If you were able to break charm before your pet started running, you would finish it off with DDs and DoTs, and then repeat with the next monster.
This is incorrect (at least in Luclin / PoP era, I never swarm kited before then).

I used to break mobs at 1% and 0% regularly with my Goblin Gazughi Ring and receive full XP.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:08 PM
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Here's a bit of advice also.....every bard should get themselves a pair of jboots. Not having to cast selos while kiting is so so nice! And Jboots seem to give me the perfect speed I need for kiting.
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:54 AM
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Cool song list: http://crys.org/everquest/spells/bardsongs_az.asp

Better than Allah's imo because it's much less updated which helps when finding certain songs and merchants in zones that have been redone on live. Includes locs for most merchants. An example would be Inisis Trimpet, whom Allah's states is in East Freeport, but she is actually in North.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:18 AM
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Great advice and very cool video, Nalkin. If you don't mind me asking, what is that UI that you are using? I liked the swap spot for weapons/instruments there.
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Old 10-09-2010, 10:27 AM
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Here's a bit of advice also.....every bard should get themselves a pair of jboots. Not having to cast selos while kiting is so so nice! And Jboots seem to give me the perfect speed I need for kiting.
Actually just use selo's without a drum if it's too fast, or weigh yourself down, or etc. I'm so used to using selo's that I'd never be able to just use jboots!
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:46 AM
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Great advice and very cool video, Nalkin. If you don't mind me asking, what is that UI that you are using? I liked the swap spot for weapons/instruments there.
Thanks. I use that UI exclusively for that swap box.

you can download it here:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7850

and you can get different spell gems here:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11949

I should say, you can get the same effect with the hotbars, but I like the way the box on this UI is setup better.
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:54 AM
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As a long-time admirer of bards, I recently took the plunge and scrounged up a pile of mismatched gear (Thanks Gidro!) and rolled my own.
This thread has been invaluable for insights into the art of swarm kiting

Nalkin that video was amazing. I actually bookmarked it for ongoing review on 'how it's done'
Be aware I'll likely pester you (and other bards) with PM'd questions in the near future.

Edit:
I need help with twisting macros.
This works fine, but is only one song per button:
/stopcast
/cast #
/pause 31
/stopcast

I've read that /pause can be followed with another command in the same line but can't get it to actually work.
Does /pause only fork when followed with /cast? or can it /pause 31 then /stopcast?
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:00 PM
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Actually just use selo's without a drum if it's too fast, or weigh yourself down, or etc. I'm so used to using selo's that I'd never be able to just use jboots!
Yeah definitely a good idea! The nice thing about having jboots though is you can twist an additional dps song in place of selos. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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