Shut down the casinos

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

99 percent of my profits would come from a very select group of people who clearly had gambling issues (and probably suffered from rl issues like depression and such). I didn't lose any sleep over it because obviously its just a game.

Wait wait wait... how are you drawing this assumption? Even as a psychologist, I would never had drawn that conclusion out because someone handed me X,XXX amount of pixels on a video game.

Were they extremely upset when losing? Did they spam PM you with hated texts? Would they sit in the corner writing sad poetry and listening to Alanis Morissette records?

I don't understand. I ran casinos since the beginning, possibly the first / one of the first, but most the people had fun; win or lose. It's just pixels in the end, what people do with them is their choice as long as you aren't violating any rules, so I don't understand how someone who uses a casino in-game has gambling issues in real life, or is ultimately in a state of depression. At that rate, they might as well have a drinking addiction as well. Most the time, they have too much of it to even care about.

[baakss]

Originally Posted by Zulzephur - Tarew Marr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait wait wait... how are you drawing this assumption? Even as a psychologist, I would never had drawn that conclusion out because someone handed me X,XXX amount of pixels on a video game.

Were they extremely upset when losing? Did they spam PM you with hated texts? Would they sit in the corner writing sad poetry and listening to Alanis Morissette records?

I don't understand. I ran casinos since the beginning, possibly the first / one of the first, but most the people had fun; win or lose. It's just pixels in the end, what people do with them is their choice as long as you aren't violating any rules, so I don't understand how someone who uses a casino in-game has gambling issues in real life, or is ultimately in a state of depression. At that rate, they might as well have a drinking addiction as well. Most the time, they have too much of it to even care about.

It's not just pixels. It's the time you spent to acquire them. It's the relationships you built in game. It's the ups and downs of wiping, winning, etc..

"It's just pixels" and you're a psychologist?? Sorry, I knew people who ruined their lives over this game in live. Lost families, dropped out of college, etc... and when you say "just pixels", it's an incredibly naive way of thinking about how people feel about their hobbies.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by baakss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not just pixels. It's the time you spent to acquire them. It's the relationships you built in game. It's the ups and downs of wiping, winning, etc..

"It's just pixels" and you're a psychologist?? Sorry, I knew people who ruined their lives over this game in live. Lost families, dropped out of college, etc... and when you say "just pixels", it's an incredibly naive way of thinking about how people feel about their hobbies.

I said in reality they are... and they are. Like it or not... they are. What you're getting at is more of an addiction problem. People normally don't drop out of school or lose families due to a hobby...

Hey, like I've said already... I've devoted a great deal of time into Everquest since I started the year it came out, along with many other games, but EQ easily the most.

The platinum I acquired doesn't really have much meaning... they are pixels on a screen. They come, and they go, but the people I've played with, been in guilds with on EQ and Rift, WoW, LotRO, etc for over a decade now have not. I consider these people closer to me than most of my family. I've met most of my original guild on EQ at the conventions and what not. Those are not "just pixels" as I stated. The currency certainly more so though yes, but I completely get where you're going at with your statement.

I'm sure I could have done much greater things with my time, such as been more apart of my family growing up and even now instead of peering into a computer screen. I could have went out and volunteered more than what I did/do. Made some new friends, maybe I wouldn't still be fucking single at the age of 28?!

When you start to put things into perspective like that, YES, they begin to be more and more "just pixels," but I wouldn't change my time spent on EQ and the people I've played with over the years. Apart of who I am now is due to it and those people I know and have met, or just knew in-game.


I was speaking on the behalf of the currency lost, or gained. What you have acquired in-game as far as currency and items doesn't do you much, if anything, in the real world.

Also, these are just my opinions. My career has nothing to do with them. Could be worse though... I know of a doctor who literally believes in the "stork" theory. No bullshit.

[Nips]

Originally Posted by Zulzephur - Tarew Marr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait wait wait... how are you drawing this assumption? Even as a psychologist, I would never had drawn that conclusion out because someone handed me X,XXX amount of pixels on a video game.

Were they extremely upset when losing? Did they spam PM you with hated texts? Would they sit in the corner writing sad poetry and listening to Alanis Morissette records?

I don't understand. I ran casinos since the beginning, possibly the first / one of the first, but most the people had fun; win or lose. It's just pixels in the end, what people do with them is their choice as long as you aren't violating any rules, so I don't understand how someone who uses a casino in-game has gambling issues in real life, or is ultimately in a state of depression. At that rate, they might as well have a drinking addiction as well. Most the time, they have too much of it to even care about.

Has nothing to do with them handing me coin its me talking to them or talking to others that know them well. Once you learn some dark things about certain people, and then those same people come back constantly and go crazy at your casino, its hard to be too excited about running a casino. And I do agree, it's just pixels. If I cared more about them I'd probably be more likely to run a casino myself. That being said some people care a lot about their pixels.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by kevoh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HOLD THE PHONE THERES A PSYCHOLOGIST HERE!

It's honestly nothing to fuss about. One can't do much with just a psych degree (unless you have at least your Master's) unless you want to deal with piss ant teenagers as a counselor... and at that point, I'd be dealing with the same kids I once was, that I've now grown to hate.

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has nothing to do with them handing me coin its me talking to them or talking to others that know them well. Once you learn some dark things about certain people, and then those same people come back constantly and go crazy at your casino, its hard to be too excited about running a casino. And I do agree, it's just pixels.

Or could be, because the reasons why they are so depressed and have these forms of addictions, also equate to them being on a video game so much, which is an addiction in itself, and/or a coping mechanism (was/is for me). Maybe that's why you see them so much? They're just there, always. Sounds, oddly a lot like me growing up, and even now to be honest.

If it led to them going out into the real world and going to a casino and blowing all their, or their childrens' college funds on blackjack then yea... stop, but they'd have more serious problems than gambling in a video game at that point.

I wouldn't feel bad about it... it is just pixels in reality; just don't stiff people. I'm gathering you haven't nor would you, so I wouldn't put too much thought into it. Can't lose what you don't bet, and no one is forcing them to.