Vanguard

[Ket]

Man, it's like any other niche MMO out there. You got the die hard fans that will sit and squash the faces of anyone cheeky enough to insult their game, and those who played it for a bit, couldn't look past the plethora of bugs (understandably), and believe it to be the biggest mistake since cats on the moon. So I'm assuming your foray into the forums was full of the die hards lamenting the bugs.

I'm a face squasher. Incredible amount of potential, wasn't given the love it deserved, so it wasted away. But yeah, something about the engine it's on prevents them from letting us run an emu. Or something. I dunno. Hard to read the forums through the tears.

Wah.

Yup
-Ket

[Dalven]

Originally Posted by Ket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a face squasher. Incredible amount of potential, wasn't given the love it deserved, so it wasted away. But yeah, something about the engine it's on prevents them from letting us run an emu. Or something. I dunno.

I know very little about Vanguard but I do know some dudes are certainly trying to make an emu

http://vgoemulator.net/ sourced from here

[Ket]

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know very little about Vanguard but I do know some dudes are certainly trying to make an emu

http://vgoemulator.net/ sourced from here

I was aware of this project - even signed up to help with the data collecting, though I've been too busy looking up cat pictures to actually be of any use.

Each time I've entered those forums it doesn't look too busy - nothing like I see here at P99. Makes me wonder if it'll ever get off the ground, and that makes me sad.

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-Ket

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...though I've been too busy looking up cat pictures to actually be of any use.

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[Klapton]

I was in a very early beta of Vanguard, and played at launch. People have cited bugs for its failure, but I don't think that was the main reason. They launched with too many servers. The world was HUGE (a good thing) and travel was not instant (a good thing) but because the population of the servers was so sparse, you would often have to travel for a half hour just to get with a group.

The crafting system was one of the best I ever played, but it was too slow. IMO, proper balance of a crafting system is such that a new player can do at least ONE craft, and be able to equip their character with that gear without spending MORE time crafting than adventuring. I always hated how some games were designed as if crafting was an afterthought, or only useful for twinking your alts after rushing to max level.

The offensive and defensive target thing was innovative and cool. It made tanking more interesting than many games (including EQ).

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Klapton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was in a very early beta of Vanguard, and played at launch. People have cited bugs for its failure, but I don't think that was the main reason. They launched with too many servers. The world was HUGE (a good thing) and travel was not instant (a good thing) but because the population of the servers was so sparse, you would often have to travel for a half hour just to get with a group.

The crafting system was one of the best I ever played, but it was too slow. IMO, proper balance of a crafting system is such that a new player can do at least ONE craft, and be able to equip their character with that gear without spending MORE time crafting than adventuring. I always hated how some games were designed as if crafting was an afterthought, or only useful for twinking your alts after rushing to max level.

The offensive and defensive target thing was innovative and cool. It made tanking more interesting than many games (including EQ).

Crafting in VG was a beast. But I feel they did it right with the leveling pace. It made it a truly separate sphere of the game, not just something you did if you wanted to kill time. Where they went wrong with crafting was not making sure that crafted gear was the best gear for the level range, outside of raiding gear of course. Cause who wants to spend all that time leveling just to have the ability to make sub par gear?

[yorumi]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crafting in VG was a beast. But I feel they did it right with the leveling pace. It made it a truly separate sphere of the game, not just something you did if you wanted to kill time. Where they went wrong with crafting was not making sure that crafted gear was the best gear for the level range, outside of raiding gear of course. Cause who wants to spend all that time leveling just to have the ability to make sub par gear?

I want a game where even the raid gear is crafted. All the best gear at any level range is all crafted. Basically content drops materials that are used by crafters to make gear. You could put a commission system in the game so you can make the materials no drop. That way raid gear isn't sold on the open market and crafters are always needed in games.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by yorumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I want a game where even the raid gear is crafted. All the best gear at any level range is all crafted. Basically content drops materials that are used by crafters to make gear. You could put a commission system in the game so you can make the materials no drop. That way raid gear isn't sold on the open market and crafters are always needed in games.

Actually in VG, in order to have the top tier gear, you did have to have crafted components made for you. It was pretty cool. You also HAD to max out your diplomacy to even have access to the gear.

[Rhambuk]

Sad to think I will never play vanguard again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Yup. SOE ruined my life.