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[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't hate Eugenics. When the Eugenics wars happen we'll talk.

I disagree with your second point vehemently. An example: While the conquest of the Americas which nearly entirely wiped out all indigenous peoples was imperialistic in nature, every murder/rape/death from the first child Columbus raped to the conquest of Central/South America to the NE natives who's deaths were celebrated at thanksgiving, were all entirely 'justified' in the eyes of their murderers because savage peoples weren't holy.

Jihadism/Crusades/Conquistidors have nothing to do with whether or not a deity exists, I don't know why you are trying to blend the two into a single point. Humans are territorial by nature, we've evolved that way. Nobody is saying war wouldn't exist, however the world would very likely have a fraction of the suffering it did today if not for sky daddy (see: Dark Ages, Mother Theresa, etc.).


Now you are confusing causation with results. Or are you going to try to tell me that 10,000% more people on the planet and much more efficient methods of wiping people off the map have nothing to do with the higher death tolls in recent wars compared to the crusades.

Nothing you are saying even has anything to do with a God existing or not and why Aeghiests are so annoying in modern day society. Either I am completely not understanding your point (which is probable) or you are trying to deflect.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aeghiests

now there's such things as Aeghiests? theirs too many beliefs in this world...

[Rhambuk]

I disagree

[Gaffin 7.0]

there is no god, bible is bullshit

[iruinedyourday]

Im going to convert to mormancolisam, its like Mormonism but its more melancholy.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now there's such things as Aeghiests? theirs too many beliefs in this world...

My phone for some reason auto corrected to that lawls

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

look to your own quote below to see why this is a hollow argument. there's no causation. like you said, the conquest and murders were imperialistic in nature. why are you so preoccupied with the justifications that were offered? do you think the americas wouldn't have been taken by conquest without religious justification? there's always some justification. nobody ever just says "we're committing atrocities, deal with it". we've seen too many of these horrors committed by secular governments to seriously believe religion is the driving force. hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot -- they did the same things without any religious justifications

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

inb4 pol pot and stalin etc, even though they were simply atheists who killed millions and not killing millions in the name of atheism. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing you are saying even has anything to do with a God existing or not and why Aeghiests are so annoying in modern day society. Either I am completely not understanding your point (which is probable) or you are trying to deflect.

You brought up the point of being "more murderous". I responded. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daldolma]

once again, why does the justification matter? why can't you ever make a coherent argument?

if you want to blame religion for mass murder committed by governments, you need to grapple with the fact that areligious governments also commit mass murders of equal or greater proportions

the fact that areligious governments don't justify their murders in the name of irreligion is neither here nor there. the issue is the actual commission of mass murder, not the justification. if a religious government and an areligious government are going to commit the same exact atrocities, what possible difference does the associated rhetoric make? it's window dressing

[Pokesan]

what's the difference between an atheist and an anti-theist?

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