Selling Epics? Outrageous prices?

[Gaffin 7.0]

I forgot you know all the classes I play and characters I have. Continue on about bard epic being #1 class game changer. Too funny.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loke, were you not popped in the great SEQ / MQ2 de-level / suspend wave?

Yeah, But he was cool about it. He gets a pass.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

resists songs are percussion

You sure about that? Guardian + Psalm is what you should be playing on like 80% of current raid encounters.

And Heallun, yup. I took a year or so off after that, but started playing again like a month or two before FE was created on my bard. Raided with them until the TMO merger then went back to IB. Been taking a break this summer while waiting on Velious.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, But he was cool about it. He gets a pass.

No no no. Loke used to talk about all the skilled things he was doing with this pull and that pull. We killed LDCs together--that's a sacred bond, Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But the fact that he's calling out Gaffin as a cheater (which I mean, is that even necessary at this point?) while also having cheated and just gotten luckier on the punishment seems hypocritical.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Also, given the state of the velious beta, you may want to invest in a cryo pod or something. Shit is outrageous. I suppose we all get second chances.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Certainly i'm not suggesting it's NECESSARY. You're absolutely right, you can completely play just fine without it. And in certain cases, should. A really heavy dragon fight where every resist point counts, you should be using a drum. But to completely dismiss the bard epic as being totally useless when there is a benefit to having it and it does make you a more effective player in a number of different situations is going too far. When I say "game-changer," I don't mean "you're not a good bard unless you have it," I mean "it changes the way you play the game." That's all.

Now i agree with this.

I never said it was useless, the proc on it is amazing if you're the only haster in a melee group, for example.

And it does make you more effective, i also agree with this, but i remember when i got my epic on live, during PoP and it absolutely didn't change the way i played the game at all.

I still switched instruments, CC'ed the same, did the same shitty melee damage.

The little stat boost is nice when you're too lazy to switch instruments while meleeing though.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure about that? Guardian + Psalm is what you should be playing on like 80% of current raid encounters.

And Heallun, yup. I took a year or so off after that, but started playing again like a month or two before FE was created on my bard. Raided with them until the TMO merger then went back to IB. Been taking a break this summer while waiting on Velious.

I assume you're talking about Guardian Rhythm and Psalm of Mystic Shielding, for the MR yeah?

Well Guardian is percussion and psalm is singing, so yes, your psalm is going to be a bit better with the epic but you should still switch to drums when you play guardian.

Still waiting on the game changing part.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Dragonsblood1987 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

getting creepy desperate, breh. you know there are tits outside, right? put on a thick layer of sunscreen (so your delicate UV deprived flesh doesnt bubble and melt) and go outside.

i had this jackass thread dead for four hours

[HeallunRumblebelly]

If you're a bard who plays resists songs in a raid, no one cares about your epic. If you're actually a main bard who does other bard shit during the week, epic is titties.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're a bard who plays resists songs in a raid, no one cares about your epic. If you're actually a main bard who does other bard shit during the week, epic is titties.

I guess.

I mean the epic proc still isn't enough to haste cap a level 60 with the best haste item equipped, but it's better than the best haste song you get (level 56 45% haste). In any case, shamans at the same level get a better haste (celerity 50% haste), but let's not argue for a few percentage points. The str/atk is pretty cool though.

Having the epic frees up a song slot, as the song won't stack with the proc, that's also nice.

Other than that, it's pretty meh to be honest. If i'm already going to switch instruments while meleeing to provide the best effect for my group, then getting my epic is pointless and certainly not worth the obscene amount of platinum required for a guts MQ.