Class "R" rotation and Sky about to fall apart

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazie, I personally work to ensure the Rotation is upheld night and day and check it around the clock as the discussions rage but my guild does not. I commit myself to leading a more hardcore gaming life style so they do not have to. Every guild leader understands what I'm saying and is probably in the same boat. I personally never receive loot because there is not a whole lot outside of VP that I really need. But my guild of casual players are not at all the same and cannot devote the time I have to be more than casual.

I am sure several people work to uphold it bk...That isn't the point I was making. Your guild is a perfect example of a Class R guild. Solid members still needing to acquire gear and levels to progress. BDA is the definition of a Class C guild. Large roster of level 60s with the gear to compete and the numbers to track and batphone at most hours of the day. You could put an experienced raid leader and guild leader at the head of BDA right now and they would be a force on the server.

The leadership of BDA however would rather crowd the Class R spawn cycle and dilute the pool of mobs for the smaller less capable guilds simply because it's easy for them. They then come to the forums and paint misconceptions about Class C and make it sound like something it isn't in its current state. They do this so they can tell guilds like yours "See this is why we are Class R that over there is a shitshow"...Which it isn't 90% of the time.

Honestly raiding Class C is quite easy once you gain experience and have a good understanding of Everquest mechanics with the current mob windows. You spend maybe 2(sometimes 3) days a week actually being ready to raid with your characters. The rest of the time you don't even have to log into Everquest unless you want to. With a large roster(Especially the one the size of BDA) you have plenty of people to cover tracking the short windows these mobs have. Sure every now and again a train happens or someone KSes and it comes to RNF. Things like that happen every now and again when 2 guilds are racing for mobs. Most the time it is easily handled between the 2 parties involved with very little drama.

[arsenalpow]

How about TMO and IB rotate mobs with the rest of the server? Does that sound ok?

[Pint]

i am literally blown away that lazie just still does not understand, i mean i have no issues with you personally lazie but you are being so intentionally dense lol.

[arsenalpow]

He wants to force a playstyle on BDA specifically but he would never want a playstyle forced on him. He's a moron.

[Bazia]

i never remember GMs telling guilds they cant kill certain raid mobs

is dis classic?

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i never remember GMs telling guilds they cant kill certain raid mobs

is dis classic?

Can't pick and choose. If you want a pure classic server, your entire guild would have disbanded and every officer/leader would have been banned. Also the entire 100+ accounts would have never been allowed to be unbanned/unsuspended.

Anything else you want classic?

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't pick and choose. If you want a pure classic server, your entire guild would have disbanded and every officer/leader would have been banned. Also the entire 100+ accounts would have never been allowed to be unbanned/unsuspended.

Anything else you want classic?

Oh and this would apply to IB also from the fire sale they had. Don't let anyone claim I singled out just TMO in the classic standing argument.

[Clasick]

Wow this thread still going on
Lots of good discussion on the whole raid scene

So is there a point where the class R rotation will be saturated with too many guilds? Can you imagine the shit show if the rotation was determined by guild size ?

As pointed out until velious drops there is no need to be in a mega guild. There is little incentive for smaller guilds on the rotation to merge as it would net less merbs

[toosweet]

People on welfare be like ' why you want me to earn what I get, why you tryna change my lifestyle'
An you know sumtin else, we need more stuff, my children gots ta eat, somebody gotta be held responsible fo dis

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i am literally blown away that lazie just still does not understand, i mean i have no issues with you personally lazie but you are being so intentionally dense lol.

I don't even see what the argument here is. Class R guilds don't wanna race, so they don't, so they don't get very many mobs. Most seem rather content with the situation as it is, still getting some mobs. With the repops we probably average out to about as many mobs as we had before. Sky is still fucked with this rotation thing, but that's mostly because of efreetis having ultra uber wtf rare loots like belt/fist/bow etc.

Noble rotation never really worked out for us cuz of not knowing when OOAs were be despawned and then having a situation where the prize for breaking the agreement (more OOAs / hands) got bigger and bigger until someone did it. Velious fixes this, though, as noble loot becomes....not very good compared to velious loot :P Just something we'll have to wait out one way or another.