Hey Xasten, alarti, portsche...old friends

[Nineran]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't know sitting on your ass all day, jav-spamming makes personality.

Doesn't apply.

Not to mention what is more important? Keeping a close group of friends and not 100 random people OR absorbing the competition

Doesn't apply.

Here's the problem, one promotes friendship and integrity. The other promotes being a vast dickhead to get the items you need, being guilded with people that have trained you in the past, leap-frogged and done whatever in the name of competition.

Doesn't apply.

I am all for competition, but I like having a smaller core, close group of friends who are really decent human beings in game and out.

It's like every big bank corporation in the world. They absorb other banks to keep themselves afloat, print more money when they are low, and shit on the rest of the community to make themselves a little bit richer.

Doesn't apply.

BTW the print more money thing is just an example of cut-throat tactics. I'm not saying old TMO was not cut-throat, every guild is, but the difference is the original TMO core had worked their way from being a lower class guild to the top position with the same leadership.

That's just wrong. Doesn't have anything to do with applicable.

[Nineran]

It looks like you are pulling a lot of quotes from RnF. That's a really reliable place to get the true essence of a guild.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You made a sentence showing the opposite point, 0 times. I can start putting in quotes from the TMO members that posted previously.



Why tolerate people that are constant annoyances if you think they contribute nothing to the guild? Or are you just using them for more pixel gain? Not saying Fountree in general, I am saying the people you supposedly tolerate.



You wanted to add, you mouth is also a hole.


Holy shit this guy cares so much.


This says nothing about players personalities and if they are a complete asshat. Just because you get a few solid members that put in time for tracking or whatever it may be. Does that necessarily make them fun to be around and not pixel hungry? No.



Once again not a care in the world about the "type" of players you have but more of the amount of players you have.



If someone who created the guild, spent all the time to create that guild from the beginning to end, they own the guild. It's almost like a company, if a company owner decides he wants to close down shop and switch to a new location after he funded and built the empire from the ground up then that is his choice. The employee's/manager's can TRY and ask to buy the property from him and start it back up. Ultimately, it is his decision. If you wanted to start a new guild with different leadership, and absorb competition that Zeelot was against. Atleast create a new fucking name.



Wait, wasn't the competition FE and IB?

Ill leave you with this, if you merge every time you are about to lose your ranking as a guild, you are not really the same guild anymore. You have a large influx of people that hated each other that are now magically friends over the agreement to get better loot for themselves. Imagine if all the class R guilds decided to merge, the server would pretty much suck and so would that guild.

Ill leave you to your counterpoints now.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You made a sentence showing the opposite point, 0 times. I can start putting in quotes from the TMO members that posted previously.



Why tolerate people that are constant annoyances if you think they contribute nothing to the guild? Or are you just using them for more pixel gain? Not saying Fountree in general, I am saying the people you supposedly tolerate.



You wanted to add, you mouth is also a hole.



This says nothing about players personalities and if they are a complete asshat. Just because you get a few solid members that put in time for tracking or whatever it may be. Does that necessarily make them fun to be around and not pixel hungry? No.



Once again not a care in the world about the "type" of players you have but more of the amount of players you have.



If someone who created the guild, spent all the time to create that guild from the beginning to end, they own the guild. It's almost like a company, if a company owner decides he wants to close down shop and switch to a new location after he funded and built the empire from the ground up then that is his choice. The employee's/manager's can TRY and ask to buy the property from him and start it back up. Ultimately, it is his decision. If you wanted to start a new guild with different leadership, and absorb competition that Zeelot was against. Atleast create a new fucking name.



Wait, wasn't the competition FE and IB?

Ill leave you with this, if you merge every time you are about to lose your ranking as a guild, you are not really the same guild anymore. You have a large influx of people that hated each other that are now magically friends over the agreement to get better loot for themselves. Imagine if all the class R guilds decided to merge, the server would pretty much suck and so would that guild.

Ill leave you to your counterpoints now.

Holy shit this guy cares....

[Hitpoint]

I said we were in bad shape during the summer and getting 1/10 mobs but stayed together because we were tight. Then we recruited when the summer slump was over and came back strong.

TMO loot council is incredibly fair. As I said in a post yesterday. We've been with TMO for 3 months and I have yet to see loot drama. That's better than I've seen in any other guild.

Your spinning is less skillful than most. It's too over the top and full of bullshit. Why are you so mad? You'd enjoy TMO a lot if you were in it, or of you never left.. That's the truth.

Nice post history btw. How fucking obsessed are you with us?

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy who was one of the top advocates of being in FE against TMO. I care a lot about not being a dick and having fun. What do you care a lot about? Let me guess, selling out to get more pixels? Also the holy shit this guy cares posts only works if you DONT post it here, you coming here, taking the time to read my posts then replying shows you infact care. Now fuck off.

We were getting pixels just about the same working with IB. In the end the better fit was found while attaining those pixels.

[Nineran]

Thank you "Arnold Palmer Cum" for making sure we don't forget this is RnF.

I do realize my post was way to genuine for this forum, sorry about that.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Nineran [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you "Arnold Palmer Cum" for making sure we don't forget this is RnF.

I do realize my post was way to genuine for this forum, sorry about that.

We're all being way too sincere for rnf tbh.

Making it too easy for the trolls.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It honestly is the revolving door for the top guilds, someone is always the bad guy. The top guild always attracts the people who are loot hungry and have no problem shitting on everyone for whatever their gains are on the game. The difference is TMO more embraces this and doesn't seek out these problems because its a merge of different people now and the competition has gone down to basically not much. They keep the people that are asshats or even "tolerable" to keep being the top guild even though they don't have to anymore.

I will step on your neck for loot. Don't get in my way.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by PhilMcKracken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still have yet to answer the questions about, if FE was already a tight core, why merge? The only answer left is more dragons and pixels. Raiding is fun, don't get me wrong. But I can find the same type of fun chopping it up with my friends on raids regardless if you get the loot or not. I don't disagree you were getting the same pixels with IB BUT I do think at the same time you knew that TMO would want to come back and they would eventually come back with more players and you'd still have problems. Also they had had VP and other mobs uncontested for quite some time so they had the chance to already gear up different alts.

Once again I was to reiterate that taking YOUR time to go to my post count and check each individual one and coming back to post here will not show how obsessed I am, my post count is like 9......I guess that must be really obsessive. I would like you to count how many times you came here and defended TMO for ridiculous shit or just outright contradicted yourself. This forum account is specifically for the use of showing what pot meets kettle is since a lot of you sincerely don't realize. I also read over these tjreads with half, if not, majority of all of TMO constantly contradicting themselves. I'm also not saying all TMO is bad, there is a few people in the guild that are cool. Then you have the people that think the whole game is about acquiring more loot and obtaining status and what guild do you think those people will go to?

You're right, raiding is fun. I enjoy it, we all do. And to answer your question, either merge (with IB or TMO) was for the purpose of being a powerhouse in Velious. Not for dominating Kunark, or acquiring mass VP pixles. Even though that's obviously a welcome side effect of it. Velious is the whole reason IB came back to the server. We merged with TMO because IB had burned their bridges. Every guild wants more dragons, you make it sound like we're all loot whores. But in reality it's no more than anyone else. Including any class R guild. Seeing the content, and winning is more important than what the mobs drop imo. I'd rather kill a PD that drops nothing than a fungus king that drops 5 tunics. I think a lot of people feel the same way.