Tinfoiltainment

[Aviann]

TMO doesn't even need fear. Suspend them from all of it.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO doesn't even need fear. Suspend them from all of it.

I'd farm Fear every day if it meant griefing you off the server.

[Clasick]

TMO are just the same assholes they were before the new management.
You just have to look how their members represent the guild, in game, on the forums, by their actions, training, OOC shit talk, Tiggles........
Well I guess the only difference is a lot of new faggots were obtained by the FE merger, adding to the overall guild faggotry (just read the toxic posts from former FE members)

TMO management has sent a clear message that any wrong doing by TMO is and always will be an individual acting alone.
The guild takes zero responsibility for their members or actions and does not see it represents the guild as a whole.
You want to be “The Mighty TMO, Premier raiding guild” nut up and take responsibility for your so called “Premier raiding guild” members.
You want people to respect the new TMO stop carrying on acting like a bunch of asshats that play both ends against the middle.

You whole “We removed his guild tag” but he’s still playing with the guild, camping out in VP, guilded alts etc. was such a transparent bullshit move to divert attention from punishment. Like why even throw out that you kicked him from the guild when you has no intention of kicking him from the guild.
More deflection

/engage TMO spin machine bullshit

“Premiere Guild” just LOL

[sanforce]

/engage same ol anti TMO bullshit

Originally Posted by Clasick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO are just the same assholes they were before the new management.
You just have to look how their members represent the guild, in game, on the forums, by their actions, training, OOC shit talk, Tiggles........
Well I guess the only difference is a lot of new faggots were obtained by the FE merger, adding to the overall guild faggotry (just read the toxic posts from former FE members)

TMO management has sent a clear message that any wrong doing by TMO is and always will be an individual acting alone.
The guild takes zero responsibility for their members or actions and does not see it represents the guild as a whole.
You want to be “The Mighty TMO, Premier raiding guild” nut up and take responsibility for your so called “Premier raiding guild” members.
You want people to respect the new TMO stop carrying on acting like a bunch of asshats that play both ends against the middle.

You whole “We removed his guild tag” but he’s still playing with the guild, camping out in VP, guilded alts etc. was such a transparent bullshit move to divert attention from punishment. Like why even throw out that you kicked him from the guild when you has no intention of kicking him from the guild.
More deflection

/engage TMO spin machine bullshit

“Premiere Guild” just LOL

TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter. But, please carry on, I'm glad you are so absorbed in how we handle things.

[Clasick]

Just a little friendly advice for the “Premiere Guild”

how their members represent the guild

<3

[Sorock]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/engage same ol anti TMO bullshit



TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter. But, please carry on, I'm glad you are so absorbed in how we handle things.

This is what hits home for me.

What I loved best about EQ when I played it way back in the day was that every guild that I ever interacted with on Tunare; via Tunare Guild Alliance, Order of the Ravenclaw, Assembly of Norrath, Valiant Spirit, etc.. is the exact opposite of the stance stated above.

Guilds, in general, did care about what/how the community thought of them. This is not even directed towards TMO, you see it even in plenty of other guilds' and unguilded people's attitude just the same...

I get that this box and the current state of the raid scene, etc.., is a decent part of the reason for the decline of the culture, but ultimately, the cutlure is shaped by individuals and their decisions they make on how they treat each other.

That is the disappointing part. I guess back then it was so new and the player base had not been through all of the other MMORPS and such, and literally the internet was no where near the asshattery that it is today either, we all were bound together in the fantasy and fun.

Damn, guess I am old, and yearning for the good old days.

I will say that despite all that is seen in RNF forums, I can still log in each evening and meet some really nice, honorable, friendly people. Hope that never changes!

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Sorock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what hits home for me.

What I loved best about EQ when I played it way back in the day was that every guild that I ever interacted with on Tunare; via Tunare Guild Alliance, Order of the Ravenclaw, Assembly of Norrath, Valiant Spirit, etc.. is the exact opposite of the stance stated above.

Guilds, in general, did care about what/how the community thought of them. This is not even directed towards TMO, you see it even in plenty of other guilds' and unguilded people's attitude just the same...

I get that this box and the current state of the raid scene, etc.., is a decent part of the reason for the decline of the culture, but ultimately, the cutlure is shaped by individuals and their decisions they make on how they treat each other.

That is the disappointing part. I guess back then it was so new and the player base had not been through all of the other MMORPS and such, and literally the internet was no where near the asshattery that it is today either, we all were bound together in the fantasy and fun.

Damn, guess I am old, and yearning for the good old days.

I will say that despite all that is seen in RNF forums, I can still log in each evening and meet some really nice, honorable, friendly people. Hope that never changes!

To be clear, TMO does not condone training or general asshatery that puts the guild in a bad light. But, Dinacarl has already been through the RNF wringer for his actions, and has now been punished by the staff accordingly. Hopefully he and others have learned a valuable lesson from this experience - it's never OK to train another guild (unless the zone is no-CSR, but that's a different discussion for another time). My original comment "TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter", is more from a moving forward perspective. Random people calling for blood in RNF will not decide his fate as a TMO member - that's up to member opinions and the officers final decision on the matter. I, for one, don't think he should be permanently kicked for messing up once.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd farm Fear every day if it meant griefing you off the server.

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO doesn't care about your opinion on the matter.

Not self absorbed greedy pieces of shit at all... not one bit.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not self absorbed greedy pieces of shit at all... not one bit.

Let's take another look today at how much of a piece of shit Tiggles is. Necroooo

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Clasick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess the only difference is a lot of new faggots were obtained by the FE mer...

ohhh kay you're definitely not worth listening to for any reason.