we should definitely introduce variance.

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are only two types of players who aren't interested in variance (and those two groups aren't even entirely disjoint). The first group of people are players in Nihilum--people who would stand to lose time and/or pixels if variance were introduced. The second group of people are blewbs/ignoranuses that think variance on red would somehow be comparable to variance on blue.

For instance...

Originally Posted by Rystar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how you guys keep saying variance will raise the pop. Complete bullshit, you guys don't log on now why would variance suddenly get you the 50 required to PvP a mob away from Nihilum?

Just say it like it is, you want some pity dragons from the Devs since you can't take it on your own. We can even get a nice catch phrase for this, call it EQ Obamacare, or better yet call it Nizzarcare.

Originally Posted by Rystar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance isn't going to make you and yours log in. You know it and I know it.

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm convinced that anyone who supports this idea never played on blue.

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't matter how many people say the same thing Gradner, Lite and co. believe poopsocking leads to PVP somehow.

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of them are actually dumb enough to believe that any change may somehow turn the tides in their favor, but most of them are just trolling about variance because they want grief Nihilum as hard as they can by wasting thousands of hours of their EQ time sitting around tracking mobs.

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In no way does it raise the pop. It does absolutely nothing but grief members of the guilds willing to track mobs and leads to completely uncontested boss encounters as opposed to affording the opportunity to contest mobs on a known timer.

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Must not have played on blue ever. Blue has had variance for sometime. An FFA raid mob living for 5 minutes would be some kind of miracle.

How unexpected.

[GradnerLives]

So how do you propose that variance will be different on Red than it is on Blue?

I would argue that the only people that appear to be in favor of variance are a select few Azrael members and others who have no past experience with the baggage that comes along with variance.

I don't see any reason to cherry pick these posts and highlight/bold the parts say who they are, rather than looking at any of their arguments and forming a coherent rebuttal.

You appear to have read the first line of my post.
Congrats.
Now what about the rest of it?

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how do you propose that variance will be different on Red than it is on Blue?

I didn't read beyond the first line of text, because I know that you either did not read or did not understand what I had posted. I didn't need to read past your first line to know that you were wrong, as your first line put you into the secondary category of fallacious arguments I outlined in my previous post.

I have actually talked to great length about how variance would be different on red vs blue, as well as why variance is a good idea in general (for red). I encourage you to familiarize myself with my last posts, not so much so you can see my input on the subject matter, but because you have demonstrated (multiple times at this point) that your critical thinking and reading comprehension skills are lacking, at best.

My most recent post in this thread featured some brilliant color-coding intended to ease the task of comprehension, as I knew I would be preaching to a "special" community. Obviously that fell brutally short of conveying meaningful information, hence why I encourage you (in a very general sense) to practice your reading abilities... perhaps using some of my other posts as exercise material.

At the very worst, you will encounter some beautiful haikus I have written that celebrate the fine red99 community.

And one last thing, since you still don't seem to get it: If you find yourself making mental comparisons (let alone sharing those comparisons in this thread) about how red will be like blue... consider the *possibility* that you are more familiar with red than you are blue. Consider the possibility that you are a carebear, somebody who enjoys this "PVP" server not because of the PVP that you or anyone else can find here, but because it is a watered down version of blue99 with less contesting for pixels and gear. Your brain makes a comparison to blue because you have don't have a clue what red is. Not just this server, in general. And having killed your bard on multiple characters of mine, I have to say that my hypothesis is not far from the truth.

Also, you are guilded Nihilum now, no? Big surprises.

[Xantille]

Ok, ok. Here's the truth:





We're all getting voice changing software and joining Nilly to bring it down from the inside.




Glad I got dat off my chest