Dumbest Rule EVER

[Cecily]

The majority of the server is complacent with waiting for bi-monthly pixel rations. Thank goodness someone is trying.

[arsenalpow]

Please show me the rule that says if you leave the zone after the mob spawns you're ok to engage it. I'll make it easy for you, that rule doesn't exist. You forfeit all rights to the mob if you're raiding while it spawns. You can have two people tracking that mob and each raid target has a pre-determined spot where you can wait in force if you'd like. For plane of hate I believe it's been established that you can't be in the zone period. For something like VS or Trak waiting at the zoneline has been deemed acceptable.

Also, please keep mocking class R. We've ruined this game by getting fucking EIGHT!! guilds working together to make the raid scene less nauseating. We've handled every class issue internally, and the A-Team got epics. It's better than being in class C(oinflip) waiting for 16 hours at every VP dragon spam clicking target/jav macros.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please show me the rule that says if you leave the zone after the mob spawns you're ok to engage it. I'll make it easy for you, that rule doesn't exist. You forfeit all rights to the mob if you're raiding while it spawns. You can have two people tracking that mob and each raid target has a pre-determined spot where you can wait in force if you'd like. For plane of hate I believe it's been established that you can't be in the zone period. For something like VS or Trak waiting at the zoneline has been deemed acceptable.

Also, please keep mocking class R. We've ruined this game by getting fucking EIGHT!! guilds working together to make the raid scene less nauseating. We've handled every class issue internally, and the A-Team got epics. It's better than being in class C(oinflip) waiting for 16 hours at every VP dragon spam clicking target/jav macros.

Not really following all this drama, not playing enough anymore. So coming as a neutral reader of this thread, i have a question, what makes:

Having a raid force waiting outside plane - good
Having a raid force gate out of plane and come back in - bad

now is it actually what happened ? i don't know but it seems to me it should be allowed. Maybe it's because it can't be verified by logs ? I am just curious here.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really following all this drama, not playing enough anymore. So coming as a neutral reader of this thread, i have a question, what makes:

Having a raid force waiting outside plane - good
Having a raid force gate out of plane and come back in - bad

now is it actually what happened ? i don't know but it seems to me it should be allowed. Maybe it's because it can't be verified by logs ? I am just curious here.

It's not my rule, it's the staff rule. It's definitely advantageous being in the zone beforehand already broken in.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have a question, what makes:
Having a raid force waiting outside plane - good
Having a raid force gate out of plane and come back in - bad

now is it actually what happened ? i don't know but it seems to me it should be allowed. Maybe it's because it can't be verified by logs ? I am just curious here.

^Exactly if you can be outside the zone in, than zoning out an coming back in is Ok.
If they really all gated out an came back in , it should be a legit kill.
At least that is how the rules was wrote.
You can see Sirken said in their ban forum "instead of clearing" meaning they did not clear out ? In which case ban.
BUT IF THEY DID CLEAR OUT...
When the rules was discussed there was people who said "what if we are in hate clearing stuff an inny pops?" and GM response was everyone would have to zone out an come back in. So if they did all zone out. How is it a ban still?

I am not sure how class R has came up with

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More than two disqualifies you from the mob period. No amount of zoning in or out will remove the DQ.

Naggy - I think the FG ledge was considered ok

Never heard of this rule. ALL Rules need to be posted better if this is how its running.