ninja looting or no?

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for pointing put that I left out a qualifier in my previous post, however BDA being one of several guilds who campaigned for a more casual raid scene doesn't change the fact that they were the largest and most visible.

It's cool you completely ignore the hypocrisy of BDA campaigning for casual relaxed raid scene then turning around and doing the exact same thing TMO did to them to an unguilded enchanter.

And the fact that the mob is technically FTE doesn't change the fact that steamrolling some unguilded noob who was there first is a pretty shitty way to gear out enchanter alt no.13440303 especially when you've been lobbying for a more relaxed and considerate raid environment.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

It's not hypocritical to play by the agreed upon rules, even if they aren't the exact rules you wanted to play by.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Locust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

It's not hypocritical to play by the agreed upon rules, even if they aren't the exact rules you wanted to play by.

That's fair however if I had just led a campaign ostensibly to lessen server greed and spread access to raid content and epics, I probably wouldn't have rolled over some unguilded server noobie who was there first just to gear out an alt.

But hey that's me, I don't base my self worth off pixels.

[arsenalpow]

Except VT isn't a queue system. How could BDA have cut in a line that never existed in the first place. We don't monopolize VT, we only kill her when someone needs the epic piece which is completely different from the TMO stance of killing things because fuck everyone else. Saraya didn't get this VT, maybe he/she gets the next one (assuming the suspension is lifted someday) or the one after that.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except VT isn't a queue system. How could BDA have cut in a line that never existed in the first place. We don't monopolize VT, we only kill her when someone needs the epic piece which is completely different from the TMO stance of killing things because fuck everyone else. Saraya didn't get this VT, maybe he/she gets the next one (assuming the suspension is lifted someday) or the one after that.

Yes, we know VT isn't a queue system. Thanks for referencing arbitrary mob designations.

I'm just saying that in this scenario:

1. unguilded chanter was there first.
2. BDA chanter shows up second.
3. Mob pops and despite unguilded chanter telling BDA that he has people coming, they kill it anyways for someone's alt.

And especially after so many proclamations of "it's just a game", complaints about hardcores, their greed and "not having lives", after years of losing mobs to TMO because they mobilized larger forces quicker, I probably would have given the guy a little leeway or come back for it another time.

Glad you were able to bully some server noobs and get another alt his epic!!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, we know VT isn't a queue system. Thanks for referencing arbitrary mob designations.

I'm just saying that in this scenario:

I'll entertain this fantasy scenario then.

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. unguilded chanter was there first.

Wrong. Both chanters were tracking.

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. BDA chanter shows up second.

See rebuttal above.

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. Mob pops and despite unguilded chanter telling BDA that he has people coming, they kill it anyways for someone's alt.

Saraya never communicated anything at all. I'll post my entire logs if you'd like. We killed VT for a chanter main that's new.

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And especially after so many proclamations of "it's just a game", complaints about hardcores, their greed and "not having lives", after years of losing mobs to TMO because they mobilized larger forces quicker, I probably would have given the guy a little leeway or come back for it another time.

Glad you were able to bully some server noobs and get another alt his epic!!

Not the same thing and/or completely wrong again.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's fair however if I had just led a campaign ostensibly to lessen server greed and spread access to raid content and epics, I probably wouldn't have rolled over some unguilded server noobie who was there first just to gear out an alt.

But hey that's me, I don't base my self worth off pixels.

Not that this has much to do with anything, but just so you know Pricilla is not "an alt," she is a main enchanter and one of a core group of German players who have proven themselves to be a valuable asset to our guild's early-morning raiding time and time again. On top of being really good players, they're all really great human beings.