are all the veterans this toxic here?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well getting "griefed" by getting smoked by a twink or player with OOR help sucks but with PnP it is only 1 pvp death. It is only about 15 minutes out of your way to get corpse and try somewhere else. If people are holding down a zone like this hopefully aid comes eventually. It is one of the reasons yellow text is a good thing, to show the server what is happening. Situations like this can actually bring the community together and connect low level with higher levels that are anti-grief players.

I think the PnP rules limit the damage of the griefer mentality and the server needs villains. Some people like playing white knight and want the chance to attack the griefers. It gives people something to do.

I agree that real grief is almost nonexistent on red anymore, with no xp loss on death and PNP rules about LNS and bind camping and shit. But seeking out "PVP" when you have OOR support is genuine grief.

A 60 isn't allowed to KS a 30's camp just because he can, using the excuse that "well you can call in friends to chase me off" ... so why should a 60 be allowed to OOR buff+heal against that 30 in "PVP"? No-recourse "PVP" isn't PVP at all. It's grief. I'm pretty confident that the staff know this and that they aren't trying to promote red all week long just so that FOH can get their jollies chasing people back to blue though... so this will probably be settled soon.