aaaaand.. we're all dead

[Whirled]

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

http://environmentalthinker.blogspot...urces-how.html

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ces-population

/tinfoil hat on?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

http://environmentalthinker.blogspot...urces-how.html

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ces-population

/tinfoil hat on?

Irrelevant. There are more than enough natural resources, including water, for a lot more people than 7 billion. Compare 7 billion people to the landmass that is livable on earth and there would be more than ample resources for many times the population of today. The problem is greed and mismanagement of resources. Not lack of them.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Irrelevant. There are more than enough natural resources, including water, for a lot more people than 7 billion. Compare 7 billion people to the landmass that is livable on earth and there would be more than ample resources for many times the population of today. The problem is greed and mismanagement of resources. Not lack of them.

Humankind likes to condense into major cities. These cities cannot support themselves using the resources available. They have to pull resources from surrounding areas. Look at NYC and all of the fresh water that is pulled from many upstate reservoirs. Therefore pulling it from those areas and affecting their water tables. I know, because I live there.

We are still losing massive amounts of forestland all over the world at an alarming rate.
Humans end up becoming locusts for the areas they cohabitate in. If you can find evidence that all of this is another 'sky is falling' situation, by all means link some peer reviewed papers or studies.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humankind likes to condense into major cities. These cities cannot support themselves using the resources available. They have to pull resources from surrounding areas. Look at NYC and all of the fresh water that is pulled from many upstate reservoirs. Therefore pulling it from those areas and affecting their water tables. I know, because I live there.

We are still losing massive amounts of forestland all over the world at an alarming rate.
Humans end up becoming locusts for the areas they cohabitate in. If you can find evidence that all of this is another 'sky is falling' situation, by all means link some peer reviewed papers or studies.

Cities are the biggest problem. Takes way too many resources to support people living in substandard conditions. Spread people out, let them grow their own food and tend their own land. But, then government dependence would decline, and the power mongers would have no.where near as much to control. So that won't happen.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cities are the biggest problem. Takes way too many resources to support people living in substandard conditions. Spread people out, let them grow their own food and tend their own land. But, then government dependence would decline, and the power mongers would have no.where near as much to control. So that won't happen.

cultural shift of the post industrial revolution killed that idea, so now cities are coming up with ways of integrating the rural into the urban instead of spreading out the city. there's been a huge push in houston to clean up and add more parks, and to get people involved in community gardens.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cultural shift of the post industrial revolution killed that idea, so now cities are coming up with ways of integrating the rural into the urban instead of spreading out the city. there's been a huge push in houston to clean up and add more parks, and to get people involved in community gardens.

That's great. But all resources still have to be shipped in from other areas. So its not anything near a self sustaining system.