Raid question - helping other guilds.

[Ella`Ella]

I don't see where this becomes an issue. If two Class-C guilds raid together, they are subject to a bag limit rule together. If Class-C raids with Class-R(otation), how is anyone else affected, as Class-R has a rotation in place?

I imagine that a Class-R guild, like Doljorn was could raid with a Class-C guild, but the members of Class-C couldn't be eligible for any loot. That was the case when Imba was main-tanking for Doljorn (to whatever extent that lasted).

[Valere]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see where this becomes an issue. If two Class-C guilds raid together, they are subject to a bag limit rule together. If Class-C raids with Class-R(otation), how is anyone else affected, as Class-R has a rotation in place?

I imagine that a Class-R guild, like Doljorn was could raid with a Class-C guild, but the members of Class-C couldn't be eligible for any loot. That was the case when Imba was main-tanking for Doljorn (to whatever extent that lasted).

It would be nice to help blooming Class R guilds out with mobs they are having trouble with, but as a Class C member it's just too risky that some nerd will try to fraps/petition you to get you or your guild penalized because he's mad/sad/bad.

[Danth]

You know perfectly well what the issue is Ella. Some folks don't like seeing other guilds get help because they want those other guilds to fail so their own guild can swoop in and collect more loot.

The class system strikes me as incredibly poorly designed. Class R in particular seems doomed to eventually fail as population increases. Too many folks are trying for a piece of too small a pie. Those guilds are already eyeballing ways to preserve what small rate of kills they have and try to rule-lawyer each other out of raid kills.

Danth

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know perfectly well what the issue is Ella.

Danth

I guess it sounds more to me like you're expecting the problem to come from within Class-R and not Class-C? Is that correct?

I don't think Class-C members would mind helping Class-R secure kills for nothing in return; I know if asked to help, I personally wouldn't mind - I wouldn't mind raid leading for those without experience either.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Too many folks are trying for a piece of too small a pie. Those guilds are already eyeballing ways to preserve what small rate of kills they have and try to rule-lawyer each other out of raid kills.

At least they have a slice now. And the eventual R-class infighting will be entertaining. Win win for everyone.

[Morgander]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see where this becomes an issue. If two Class-C guilds raid together, they are subject to a bag limit rule together. If Class-C raids with Class-R(otation), how is anyone else affected, as Class-R has a rotation in place?

I imagine that a Class-R guild, like Doljorn was could raid with a Class-C guild, but the members of Class-C couldn't be eligible for any loot. That was the case when Imba was main-tanking for Doljorn (to whatever extent that lasted).

I feel the same way, which is why I'm just making sure there are no like, loop-holes here that could be used in a negative way against people in class R who want to do some raiding with class C people.