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Old 04-14-2014, 07:57 PM
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Not at all. Its only a logical failure when approached from such a rigid and illogical angle. All creatures are given free will. Evil exists because of consequence of choice.
then god would not be all powerful. the rigidity is there because this is rhetorical discourse which is dictated by logic, the law of non-contradiction. there is no free will in the abrahamic model due to the events having only come into possibility via god's will. so that 3 year old with leukemia that will die from it any day now is god's will.
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then god would not be all powerful. the rigidity is there because this is rhetorical discourse which is dictated by logic, the law of non-contradiction. there is no free will in the abrahamic model due to the events having only come into possibility via god's will. so that 3 year old with leukemia that will die from it any day now is god's will.
Honestly the god you're talking about isn't the god that Christians believe in, although what you described is correct, you cannot have a god with all three o's.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:14 PM
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Honestly the god you're talking about isn't the god that Christians believe in, although what you described is correct, you cannot have a god with all three o's.
http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow....ibutes-of-god/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribu...n_Christianity

http://www.equip.org/articles/the-at...ibutes-of-god/

http://www.theopedia.com/List_of_God's_known_attributes

it's what they believe in, but the early church fucked up by platonizing the religion. then again if they didn't there probably would be no church to refer to as the early church
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then god would not be all powerful. the rigidity is there because this is rhetorical discourse which is dictated by logic, the law of non-contradiction. there is no free will in the abrahamic model due to the events having only come into possibility via god's will. so that 3 year old with leukemia that will die from it any day now is god's will.
If that's he model you use to describe god, please don't say its based on the bible. That's so far off it isn't funny.
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If that's he model you use to describe god, please don't say its based on the bible. That's so far off it isn't funny.
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http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow....ibutes-of-god/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribu...n_Christianity

http://www.equip.org/articles/the-at...ibutes-of-god/

http://www.theopedia.com/List_of_God's_known_attributes

it's what they believe in, but the early church fucked up by platonizing the religion. then again if they didn't there probably would be no church to refer to as the early church
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