DA KSes offically now?

[Kutter]

its about damn time DA got caught. a little justification for Abacab too, even though he went about his crusade the wrong way. not every guild cheats either, but the guilds that haven't and don't play "second best" to the ones that do.

its funny I had so many high hopes for this server, and its fun until you max out and have to deal with all the cheaters and hackers. that's held true from live too, but I thought it would be different here. you can argue that it IS a classic experience though.

props to the devs, but as a whole, the cheating has gone on much too long, and the punishments have not been nearly enough to deter the risk. too bad shitloads of good people quit the server because of it.

[sidgb]

Originally Posted by Kutter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its about damn time DA got caught. a little justification for Abacab too, even though he went about his crusade the wrong way. not every guild cheats either, but the guilds that haven't and don't play "second best" to the ones that do.

its funny I had so many high hopes for this server, and its fun until you max out and have to deal with all the cheaters and hackers. that's held true from live too, but I thought it would be different here. you can argue that it IS a classic experience though.

props to the devs, but as a whole, the cheating has gone on much too long, and the punishments have not been nearly enough to deter the risk. too bad shitloads of good people quit the server because of it.

Technically DA has not "been caught" though I think it's pretty obvious some in the guild were involved. At least not more that other guilds "got caught" who were also involved. Assuming what Rogean said about "top guilds" being accurate.

At this point DA is just getting all the heat when other "top guilds" deserve just as much disdain.

[Kutter]

Originally Posted by sidgb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At this point DA is just getting all the heat when other "top guilds" deserve just as much disdain.

it really all comes down to leadership. knowing the history of guilds from server up through now helps. the "handful" of fishbait members for example (whose leaders were known cheat/hack/exploit artists) that made it to DA were a good indication of where that guild was headed.

the proclivity for cheating starts with the leadership in the guilds. DA entered the scene just as fishbait did, and if you're old enough on the server to remember "first to any target, guaranteed" you'll know wtf i'm talking about.

it all catches up in the end maybe, but the problem is the months and months that go by where guilds with honest leadership get steamrolled. the problem with those guilds id they're not very vocal about being screwed, and there's a lesson to be learned about squeaky wheels.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Kutter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it really all comes down to leadership. knowing the history of guilds from server up through now helps. the "handful" of fishbait members for example (whose leaders were known cheat/hack/exploit artists) that made it to DA were a good indication of where that guild was headed.

the proclivity for cheating starts with the leadership in the guilds. DA entered the scene just as fishbait did, and if you're old enough on the server to remember "first to any target, guaranteed" you'll know wtf i'm talking about.

it all catches up in the end maybe, but the problem is the months and months that go by where guilds with honest leadership get steamrolled. the problem with those guilds id they're not very vocal about being screwed, and there's a lesson to be learned about squeaky wheels.

Fishbait is on this server?

They where hack central on vz/tz if its the same fishbaot

[troll]

Originally Posted by Kutter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it really all comes down to leadership. knowing the history of guilds from server up through now helps. the "handful" of fishbait members for example (whose leaders were known cheat/hack/exploit artists) that made it to DA were a good indication of where that guild was headed.

the proclivity for cheating starts with the leadership in the guilds. DA entered the scene just as fishbait did, and if you're old enough on the server to remember "first to any target, guaranteed" you'll know wtf i'm talking about.

it all catches up in the end maybe, but the problem is the months and months that go by where guilds with honest leadership get steamrolled. the problem with those guilds id they're not very vocal about being screwed, and there's a lesson to be learned about squeaky wheels.

Apparently your jealousy and indignation towards guilds that are better than you has prevented you from understanding basic concepts.

We know a few things that are factual. Anything else is heresy and frivolous babble. I will break down the facts that we currently know in simple terms in hopes you can understand.

Statements from Rogean:

1. “ATLEAST 8 Accounts have been linked to this incident, some of those in top guilds. Will I say what guilds? No. ”
2. “The reason it was mentioned in this thread specifically is because the topic had already been brought up (The suspicion of knowing raid target spawn times).”
3. “As I continue to state repeatedly over and over, CSR Issues are non-disclosure when it comes to specific information pertaining to disciplinary actions against players.”

Here is a breakdown of these three statements:

Statement One:

- 8 players were permanently banned due to cheating (omg abacab was right!)
- Some of these said 8 were in top guilds (Bregan D’Aerth, Sapientia, IB, DA)
- Some of these said 8 were in zerg guilds (Darkwind)
- Some of these said 8 were in guilds the server laughs at (Transcendence)
- Some of these said 8 were in guilds that want their hand held and need a tissue (Divinity)
- And we know that these guilds will not be revealed (speculate and flame the guild you compete with the most on this thread!)

Statement Two:

- This thread was used by Rogean as the topic of “suspicion of knowing raid target spawn times” was already discussed here. (if you don’t understand this you’re a tool)

Statement Three:

- Players that were disciplined will not be announced
- Players that were banned will remain anonymous
- The players that were removed from the server will never be known
- Non-disclosure (this means it’s a secret!)


We can conclude the following:
A. Abacab may be an ass but he speaks the truth and that is most guilds have a few cheaters in them!
B. Rogean and crew do a good job eliminating said cheaters.

On a side note, I did some investigation last night and it appeared all the officers of DA were online! The same can not be said for Transcendence!

[Lostprophets]

Originally Posted by troll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On a side note, I did some investigation last night and it appeared all the officers of DA were online! The same can not be said for Transcendence!

Thats funny...it really is...I like how you tried shifting the band wagon...Clearly You are smoking rocks.

It's a shame Transcendence can't sit and shit in a sock 24 hours a day staring mindlessly at EQ because they have a day job and cannot get on every day...Something you forum trolls obviously don't.

Keep the hamster on the wheel kiddo, need to think some more about that.

[troll]

Originally Posted by Lostprophets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats funny...it really is...I like how you tried shifting the band wagon...Clearly You are smoking rocks.

It's a shame Transcendence can't sit and shit in a sock 24 hours a day staring mindlessly at EQ because they have a day job and cannot get on every day...Something you forum trolls obviously don't.

Keep the hamster on the wheel kiddo, need to think some more about that.

I have a day job sir! More false unabashed accusations! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by troll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bunch of bullshit...

ello Rasterburn. if you'd been on the server more than a fucking week you might have a clue. the best thing you can do is















stfu

[Humerox]

and yes i'm Kutter. the cat is out