Pick Pocket Policy: Mobs you don't own.

[Noleafclover]

Rogues got the shaft. There's very little use for picking locks or disarming traps either. That's why you shouldn't play a rogue first character unless you're up for a challenge. And we all know this, it's no big secret.

Your choice to play a challenging class does not mean you can negate other players individual mob kills because you chose to play a class that is in some ways weaker, esp. in classic.

There is effectively no difference between pickpocketing engaged mobs and a KS, and you can only dodge this lack of distinction by shifting the argument.

....But I'm falling into the trap of taking this seriously. I'd like to refer you to my original post. Roleplay a wizard for a more intelligent argument.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Noleafclover [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is effectively no difference between pickpocketing engaged mobs and a KS, and you can only dodge this lack of distinction by shifting the argument..

I have yet to see any response to this point over 11 pages. Also, Noleaf, no you're not taking it too seriously. Actually, it looks like the only people who are flaming over this are those who don't want to hear that what they're doing is wrong.

[ryuut1]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have yet to see any response to this point over 11 pages. Also, Noleaf, no you're not taking it too seriously. Actually, it looks like the only people who are flaming over this are those who don't want to hear that what they're doing is wrong.

lemme slurp down some morning joe and explain it to you.

i dont care, becuz i is roguer. why should i have to justify stealing? your morals are just stupid. explain the difference? im not KSing anyone's quest mob, or armor mob, or anything like that. i'm jacking a gem every once in a while. how about you just pay me 500pp for me to leave the zone for 3 hours?

[Noleafclover]

Originally Posted by ryuut1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lemme slurp down some morning joe and explain it to you.

i dont care, becuz i is roguer. why should i have to justify stealing? your morals are just stupid. explain the difference? im not KSing anyone's quest mob, or armor mob, or anything like that. i'm jacking a gem every once in a while. how about you just pay me 500pp for me to leave the zone for 3 hours?

Nah, I'll train you 'cause I is a dark elfer.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by ryuut1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lemme slurp down some morning joe and explain it to you.

i dont care, becuz i is roguer. why should i have to justify stealing? your morals are just stupid. explain the difference? im not KSing anyone's quest mob, or armor mob, or anything like that. i'm jacking a gem every once in a while. how about you just pay me 500pp for me to leave the zone for 3 hours?

Ryuut, originally I was responding only from having played a rogue main on live (without any sort of alt farm toon) - so really I am well aware of how little $ you make as a rogue. However, I never once jacked $$ or gems from my groups or raids, or people farming high value $$ targets.

[purist]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ryuut, originally I was responding only from having played a rogue main on live (without any sort of alt farm toon) - so really I am well aware of how little $ you make as a rogue. However, I never once jacked $$ or gems from my groups or raids, or people farming high value $$ targets.

Of course you never once jacked gems from your group or raids. Why would you when you already farmed 50k+ to twink your Rogue alt, and on top of that you have access to the farming resource like a Mage-Enchanter duo who probably have 80k+ more in the bank? Stop pretending like you're some kind of righteous man. You're enough of a douche to cry about a gem for 12 pages in a thread after admitting to twinking your Rogue in over 50k+ in farmed items off your Mage/Enchanter, petty and greedy much?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you never once jacked gems from your group or raids. Why would you when you already farmed 50k+ to twink your Rogue alt, and on top of that you have access to the farming resource like a Mage-Enchanter duo who probably have 80k+ more in the bank? Stop pretending like you're some kind of righteous man. You're enough of a douche to cry about a gem for 12 pages in a thread after admitting to twinking your Rogue in over 50k+ in farmed items off your Mage/Enchanter, petty and greedy much?

Yeah, he should be happy that some rogue possibly stole gems from a mob he camped for hours (using his toon as a meatshield while he did it) just because he already has a lot of money. If it's against mob-engage rules, it's theft. Theft isn't somehow "better" or "right" because you stole from someone who already has a lot of money.

Azeth didn't even start this thread. He just chimed in as someone with experience. You, on the other hand, just came to complain about other people being rich and not wanting things stolen from them (if indeed this is against server rules along the lines of mob-engage rules, which he is asking).

[azeth]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you never once jacked gems from your group or raids. Why would you when you already farmed 50k+ to twink your Rogue alt, and on top of that you have access to the farming resource like a Mage-Enchanter duo who probably have 80k+ more in the bank? Stop pretending like you're some kind of righteous man. You're enough of a douche to cry about a gem for 12 pages in a thread after admitting to twinking your Rogue in over 50k+ in farmed items off your Mage/Enchanter, petty and greedy much?

Are you mad, or jealous? Or need a loan? I can do 9% for you up to 20k, 20-50 can drop it to 7% fixed. We'll look at terms and conditions later.

Also, should you decide to reread my post you've quoted you'll find I've identified that on live i played a rogue, without a farm alt (for the vast majority of my time).

[ryuut1]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you mad, or jealous? Or need a loan? I can do 9% for you up to 20k, 20-50 can drop it to 7% fixed. We'll look at terms and conditions later.

Also, should you decide to reread my post you've quoted you'll find I've identified that on live i played a rogue, without a farm alt (for the vast majority of my time).

THROW ME 50K AT 7% FIXED and you'll never see me on the island again

[Dominick]

Originally Posted by Noleafclover [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is effectively no difference between pickpocketing engaged mobs and a KS, and you can only dodge this lack of distinction by shifting the argument.

There is a difference. Any loot thats worth anything is not pick pocketable. You get maybe a gem once in a while or a few PP.

Lets take the same issue with disarm. I can disarm anything as can a trained ranger. When they do that to an engaged mob and someone else picks up the weapon, is that a KS?

Hint: If a Rogue is coming in for a pick, root the mob. It will clobber him.

Here maybe this will help:
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