Pick Pocket Policy: Mobs you don't own.

[ShnarfShnarf]

Originally Posted by ryuut1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all those gems were forfeit

I don't know how you think you can justify stealing from YOUR OWN GUILD it's not like a rogue contributes anything but dps. I hope those guys smartened up and gave your ass the boot.

for people saying to bad casters rogues cant solo, to fucking bad rogues cant solo go roll a caster to do your farming.

[yaeger]

Originally Posted by ShnarfShnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for people saying to bad casters rogues cant solo, to fucking bad rogues cant solo go roll a caster to do your farming.

Yeah, because playing another class to improve your class makes a lot of sense.

It wouldn't be so bad if groups were more common. Which is probably why rogues without a solo class are doing this in the first place.

[ryuut1]

Originally Posted by ShnarfShnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know how you think you can justify stealing from YOUR OWN GUILD it's not like a rogue contributes anything but dps. I hope those guys smartened up and gave your ass the boot.

for people saying to bad casters rogues cant solo, to fucking bad rogues cant solo go roll a caster to do your farming.

ooo i stole it right into the guild leader's inventory =P yahh

im a bad guy. how about the people who got full suits of planes gear and then left an hour later? they should show back up to the guild and hand us some money, right?

bah, non-issue =P i steal your stuff, sucka. i dont need to roll a caster

[Tygerwoody]

Originally Posted by ShnarfShnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for people saying to bad casters rogues cant solo, to fucking bad rogues cant solo go roll a caster to do your farming.

Or.... farm gems from groups.


Rogues aren't meant to be liked. I've never once condemned a rogue from pickpocketing a mob while we raid. Rogues get shafted second only to Warriors in EQ. These guys deserve SOMETHING. Let em have the gems.


Also just for reference. We have rogues in our guild right now who pickpocket during our raids. Sometimes they spread the wealth of the gems. Sometimes they don't. It really doesn't matter. IMO the act of the Rogue spreading the pickpocket wealth should be admired instead of expected. I know if I were a rogue I would keep at least 75% of my pick pocketed loot, even in raids.

[doery]

It's funny that on a ROLEPLAYING game someone would get mad that in a ROLEPLAYING universe a ROGUE is known to pickpocket people,mobs,not care, be sneaky, be an asshole, etc.

He picketed the mob infront of your wife and she didn't see it? lulz.

Also lulzy @ "I texted my wife and asked her" you married quite the keeper there, broseph.

[Noleafclover]

Originally Posted by doery [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny that on a ROLEPLAYING game someone would get mad that in a ROLEPLAYING universe a ROGUE is known to pickpocket people,mobs,not care, be sneaky, be an asshole, etc.

He picketed the mob infront of your wife and she didn't see it? lulz.

Also lulzy @ "I texted my wife and asked her" you married quite the keeper there, broseph.

Since roleplaying is so important, don't you mean:

To wit: in the making of merriment in whereforth one doth act as though upon a stage, how another doth indignation take, in this world's stage, whence a criminal doth relieve others of their earthly possessions with glee and the scant flicker of a thought.

Roleplay a wizard for a more intelligent argument.

[Dominick]

The only way a rogue can farm money effectively is with pick pocket.

Its just a fact, Rogues can't tank, we can't quad, we can fear kite sometimes with intimidate and a dagger that procs darkness. When we solo its really hard to even use backstab.

So how does a rogue farm plat? Go to a rich mod area, preferable where others are farming gold. I would equip my gate hammer, and pick pockets while stealthed. If I blew it, I would run, and more often than not, some farmer would take the mob. If I am really in trouble I would turn and use my gate hammer until it procs, then buy drinks with the Dragoons in Overthere.

You don't want engaged mobs because usually they turn on you if rooted or snared. The other issue is that most decent farmers can bring the mobs down pretty fast.

It worked best when the Chinese gold farmers were in full swing in the mornings.

TLDR:
The point of this all? How much did I usually make? Not a lot. Nothing you pickpocket is worth much and coin gets heavy fast. Try moving in stealth when you are encumbered.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Dominick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR:
The point of this all? How much did I usually make? Not a lot. Nothing you pickpocket is worth much and coin gets heavy fast. Try moving in stealth when you are encumbered.

I think you're considering the wrong pickpocketing situation when stating your opinion here. Granted, I'm someone that is against pickpocketing *anything (even if its 2 silver and words of absorption) on principle - however consider the Allizewsaur example.

So many HP that it is not viable to farm for raw platinum. However, it's drop rate on BDs/Diam/BlackSaph is decent enough to turn a couple hours farming into profit. If a rogue even once PP's a black saph from your Allize camp, you just lost 3-4 hours.

Originally Posted by Ponden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe those Rogues that PP mobs are skilling up for their epic. I think you are the only person in this thread that is getting overly worked up over this issue.

What? Azeth is max PP skill from 2 hours of doing WFP guards. I would not go this route trying to justify pping engaged mobs.

[Omnimorph]

Originally Posted by Noleafclover [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since roleplaying is so important, don't you mean:

To wit: in the making of merriment in whereforth one doth act as though upon a stage, how another doth indignation take, in this world's stage, whence a criminal doth relieve others of their earthly possessions with glee and the scant flicker of a thought.

Roleplay a wizard for a more intelligent argument.

lol.

I'm an enchanter, i have mem blur. If i mem blur your mob, technically it's as if no one engaged it (no one on aggro list etc) so... can i then kill it? it's using my skill set :3

oh, and i'm a dark elf, so /role should work too. evil evil evil evil....

[azeth]

here's the tldr of this entire thread

OP asks - What's the official policy on pickpocketing mobs that are engaged?

Response (for it) - It's a game mechanic, it's the only way rogues can farm solo, stop crying.

Response (against it) - It's the same as KSing, the mob doesn't belong to you.

So, we currently have KSing rules which state you cannot engage a mob that has been previously engaged with intent to take the experience or loot. Now, pickpocketing pulls loot from the same loot table, so if a mob is engaged then guess what? You're stealing loot.

When you argue - It's a game mechanic, we wouldn't be able to pickpocket if it wasn't allowed. Well, FD is a game mechanic and I'm positive you'd be in R&F the moment some monk drops a train on you to take your camp.

How else can rogues make $ solo? Roll a mage. What about every other class that can't solo and can't pickpocket? I mean, every SK reading this thread should feel empowered to go out and KS the shit out of whomever they feel like, it's the same thing.