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Old 09-08-2010, 03:46 PM
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The problem I have with the mechanic is that it causes one to question so much else which seems wrong with the class. Sure, "outlaws" are typically able to steal from people and get good at it.

So good they can sneak by a very old dragon, steal a bunch of very heavy and valuable items and bags full of platinum and leave without the dragon noticing?

Furthermore, how can they simply disappear from plain sight? Are they magical? If they're magically disappearing from sight, why don't they have to use mana to remain hidden?

If Rogues are "so good" at stealing, why aren't monks "so good" at kicking? Why can't the monk split the dragon's head in two in one blow? They "hone their bodies into weapons," don't they? Why does feign death ever fail if monks are so good at it?

Why can't a wizard call a 6000-ton meteor from the sky, smash through the mountain and crush Nagafen to death? They are "masters of the arcane," aren't they?



I just think it's a silly mechanic at the degree to which they can currently act. Sure, rogues are supposed to be masters of subtlety and theft - but there's supposed to be more limitations. I don't give a crap how good of a magician or illusionist you are RL, you're not stealing a sword from me that i'm holding in my hand in front of my face, without me noticing. I can buy that you'd steal small items or stored items from bags - I know how good some airport thieves are.

But stealing from a freaking dragon? Gimme a break =P
i've pick pocketed everything up to planar bosses. you can steal this:

gems(not lambent stones or other magical ones)
spell reagents
coin
other reagents, non-magical

the post was made over some dude MAYBE losing one of his alli gems, and he's probably held the camp for 5 hours with his mage or necro anyhow.
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:57 PM
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i've pick pocketed everything up to planar bosses. you can steal this:

gems(not lambent stones or other magical ones)
spell reagents
coin
other reagents, non-magical

the post was made over some dude MAYBE losing one of his alli gems, and he's probably held the camp for 5 hours with his mage or necro anyhow.
Sure, and its probably not a huge deal - and my statements are only with regards to those who think "Rogues should be able to steal anything" is somehow reasonable. What you mentioned I think is pretty reasonable.

Stealing awesome (magic) weapons from in-game gods? Yeah right. :P
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