It's funny how the times have changed...

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what makes you say that early ubers were all some kinds of lamers/no lifers. I knew quite a few on Fennin in the early days that were RL professionals and/or really great people. Is this just your impression or do you have anything to back that claim up with? Also, to include 'disabled' with the other derogatory terms you used kind of sucks in my book. I assume you didn't mean it that way, but you should be more careful with your language.

FoH, is your answer.

[Nisei]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The person who got me into EQ was an uber, and he was one of those annoyingly successful people. Straight As in high school while working, playing sports and doing tons of volunteer work while managing to have a great social life. I never understood how he did it, but somehow he spent his time very well in EQ and in all things. Very goal oriented and whatever.

Jelly

[JPMorgan]

I've only met one FoH member in real life. The guy was pretty successful for his age at the time: he had his own house and a really well paying job.

However, he was always by the most socially awkward individual at any event that I ever encountered him. I wouldn't say he was necessarily a degenerate, although he did once make an undead priest named Lynched because "he was black in his past life."

[Briscoe]

Originally Posted by Trelaboon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember when EQ came out, I was completely awestruck by the great men and women of Norrath who had achieved the highest of quality in character development.

Judging from some of the responses in this thread, it looks like there is plenty of this awe still to go around (whether it is folks in awe of others, or of themselves).

Also,

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...those times (grad school was a good example) where I was doing really well in school/research, training (judo/grappling/weight lifting/soccer) 12 hours a week, and could squeeze in 2 nights going out per week.

What the hell were you doing in grad school? I'm jelly of your experience. By the time I got out of grad school, I had about 50 extra pounds I had to burn off.

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Briscoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also,



What the hell were you doing in grad school? I'm jelly of your experience. By the time I got out of grad school, I had about 50 extra pounds I had to burn off.

I had a very regimented life and was extremely focused, that's it. I was getting a PhD in physics, and had a crazy advisor (Korean guy) so I had to learn to optimize my time really well. I would wake up at 8AM, eat oatmeal with nuts/raisins, wheaties type cereal with a banana. Get to the lab around 8:45-9 and go very hard with experiments (no email/reading/whatever) until 12-12:30. Eat lunch 1. Work until 4-5. Eat lunch 2. Work until 7, and then sprint out of the lab before my boss could hold me up. At 7:30 (or 8, depending on the day) I would get to Judo, train for 2-2.5 hours. Go home, eat dinner, make lunch for next day and go to bed... rinse/repeat Mon, Tue, and Thu. Lunchtime or evenings, on Fri or Sat, Sundays, and usually Wednesday, I would lift weights hard with 2 other physics grad students for 1-2 hours, usually try to go hard for 1.25 hours only doing functional lifting, no bodybuilding crap. In the fall/spring would play intramural soccer, so I would do 1 less day of weightlifting. Usually either Friday or Saturday I would go out with friends, and once I got a girlfriend (now wife) would go out with her on Wednesdays after judo, and Fri/Sat.

I would try to maximize efficiency in the lab, although it was not easy. I would get behind from time to time, but if I lightened up on my physical/eating/sleeping routine, that was the worst solution. Certain things prevented me from keeping a regimented schedule from time to time, like qualifying exams (if you don't pass with flying colors you get the boot) which I had to study for like 5 hours a day for 5-6 months.

I tried to really rest my brain on Saturdays/Sunday... but that was not always possible... sometimes I had to play catch up on the weekend in the lab. But if I couldn't rest, my brain would just be sapped for the next whole week and I would struggle. I tried as much as possible to make the weekend just about sleeping, eating, and maybe just lying in the grass for 2-3 hours, or sitting on a bench outside, letting the stress dissipate.

However, being extremely focused with little wiggle room really helped me out. I was a machine for a few years... a good example is that I didn't eat any sugar (besides fruit) for like 2-3 years. Then one day I had a piece of cake at a birthday party, and I had to go home and sleep for like 12 hours lol. I ate really clean the whole time... probably only had 2 beers a week or less, and just pushed the pace.

The funny thing though, is that it was one of the happiest times of my life... I felt satisfied in everything I was doing. While the pace was high, I rarely noticed how busy I was because I really loved everything I was putting valuable time into (although weightlifting gets boring, besides deadlifts!). Now, with a kid/married/both of us working... I have less time to focus on me... however I do some squats/lunges with my daughter on my back while we play at the playground. More fun now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FoH, is your answer.

And we know FoH were all degenerate neckbeard basement dwellers how?

[Ugrask]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And we know FoH were all degenerate neckbeard basement dwellers how?

I lived with one of their WoW ilk for a few years. Can verify Neckbeard basement dweller.

Had zero social ability, would often stare full on at my GF's chest, walk in on sex no knocking. Not clean up his messes in kitchen, barely ever worked. Proper grooming/laundry were not high priority.

Now this isn't all of them, or their EQ ones...but this guy was a major raider in EQ and EQ2 prior to WoW...sooooo.

[Danth]

I take the "You see me putting in 70 hours a week in EQ but I'm still super successful outside game and dating a supermodel too!" crowd with a grain of salt. A few of them may be on the level but most aren't. This may be a shock to some, but people have been known to lie on the internet.

Folks riding the coattails of the high-hours players can achieve "success" in EQ with mild time investment (a few hours an evening) but it comes with its own costs--ie, largely relegating oneself to being a pawn in someone else's game.

Danth

[thefloydian]

Man the lifeboats!

[myxomatosii]

Originally Posted by Arterian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we all remember the players that were 38 after 5 years. They ran around in bushes and tried to climb trees in WK. They were the true ubers.

Hahaha