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Old 03-12-2014, 08:01 PM
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I got one thing with pathing i need to test, then will totally change sit aggro. If u arent on aggro list, will totally only make mob come smack u if noone else has more hate. Will make it so mob never remembers you.

If ur already on hate list, should behave similar to now. Will just make it so sitting doesnt add you.
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:13 AM
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Sit aggro is being changed to where it is never more than max initial aggro. That is biggest issue right now.
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:13 AM
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I got one thing with pathing i need to test, then will totally change sit aggro. If u arent on aggro list, will totally only make mob come smack u if noone else has more hate. Will make it so mob never remembers you.

If ur already on hate list, should behave similar to now. Will just make it so sitting doesnt add you.
That sounds right to me. Totally thanks Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:10 PM
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stfu

seriously, usually hate these guys who kiss up to devs and say 'go play somewhere else if you dont like it', but go play somewhere else if you dont like it

haynars in here tellin you hes workin on it, and your spitting in his face
Well, the code shouldn't have hit the live servers. It wasn't tested properly, period.

I'm sorry, but the sit aggro code would've been incredibly easy to test. I don't have a soft spot in my heart for developers who release untested code. I don't care what the project is or if the developer is a volunteer. I'm still going to voice my opinion on a dev causing a major fuck-up that is causing grief to hundreds of people.

The code has single handedly caused tons of headaches for a massive number of people on this server. Sorry that I'm not going to shy away from my opinion.

The fact is, Haynar released code that has caused all of us grief, without even the slightest bit of testing. THAT is what I have a problem with. Am I thankful for the devs work? Well, sure I am.

It doesn't mean that I'm going to hold back though when a developer makes a blatant fuck up like not even testing their own code and releasing it on live servers where it has caused a ton of headaches. So, sorry I'm not super nice, but this shit shouldn't have happened and only sloppy devs would let something like this happen.

So again, sorry for not kissing the developer's ass and silencing my own opinion. I'm not surprised lots of people jumped on me for 'complaining about volunteer devs on a free server'.

The fact is though, this was a super sloppy bug fix that should never have hit live servers without testing and that is my opinion and I don't really care if a volunteer developer's feelings gets hurt for some honest criticism.
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:16 PM
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Well, the code shouldn't have hit the live servers. It wasn't tested properly, period.

I'm sorry, but the sit aggro code would've been incredibly easy to test. I don't have a soft spot in my heart for developers who release untested code. I don't care what the project is or if the developer is a volunteer. I'm still going to voice my opinion on a dev causing a major fuck-up that is causing grief to hundreds of people.

The code has single handedly caused tons of headaches for a massive number of people on this server. Sorry that I'm not going to shy away from my opinion.

The fact is, Haynar released code that has caused all of us grief, without even the slightest bit of testing. THAT is what I have a problem with. Am I thankful for the devs work? Well, sure I am.

It doesn't mean that I'm going to hold back though when a developer makes a blatant fuck up like not even testing their own code and releasing it on live servers where it has caused a ton of headaches. So, sorry I'm not super nice, but this shit shouldn't have happened and only sloppy devs would let something like this happen.

So again, sorry for not kissing the developer's ass and silencing my own opinion. I'm not surprised lots of people jumped on me for 'complaining about volunteer devs on a free server'.

The fact is though, this was a super sloppy bug fix that should never have hit live servers without testing and that is my opinion and I don't really care if a volunteer developer's feelings gets hurt for some honest criticism.
Cry moar. He is programming for free, for a game that you get to play for free. Who gives a shit if his code mishap causes you or anyone else moments of QQ. Go play something else while they fix it, the rest of us will continue to play while taking the new sit agro mechanics into account - until the fix it.
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:20 PM
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I don't really care if a volunteer developer's feelings gets hurt for some honest criticism.
i fkin do, cause i want it fixed, so stfu
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:28 PM
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Humans are allowed to make mistakes, especially when pouring hours into making us a free game to play. Thanks Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:29 PM
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Well, the code shouldn't have hit the live servers. It wasn't tested properly, period.

I'm sorry, but the sit aggro code would've been incredibly easy to test. I don't have a soft spot in my heart for developers who release untested code. I don't care what the project is or if the developer is a volunteer. I'm still going to voice my opinion on a dev causing a major fuck-up that is causing grief to hundreds of people.

The code has single handedly caused tons of headaches for a massive number of people on this server. Sorry that I'm not going to shy away from my opinion.

The fact is, Haynar released code that has caused all of us grief, without even the slightest bit of testing. THAT is what I have a problem with. Am I thankful for the devs work? Well, sure I am.

It doesn't mean that I'm going to hold back though when a developer makes a blatant fuck up like not even testing their own code and releasing it on live servers where it has caused a ton of headaches. So, sorry I'm not super nice, but this shit shouldn't have happened and only sloppy devs would let something like this happen.

So again, sorry for not kissing the developer's ass and silencing my own opinion. I'm not surprised lots of people jumped on me for 'complaining about volunteer devs on a free server'.

The fact is though, this was a super sloppy bug fix that should never have hit live servers without testing and that is my opinion and I don't really care if a volunteer developer's feelings gets hurt for some honest criticism.
Dude you got some issues, no dev can fix...
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:34 PM
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:34 PM
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honest criticism.
There's honest criticism and then there's useful, productive, and showing-the-proper-respect-for-someone-who-is-doing-you-a-giant-favor criticism (that giant favor being the hundreds if not thousands of hours that have been put in to give you a free game). You could have said:

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Thanks so much for your fast response. As a developer myself, I've come to appreciate the value and importance of testing. Perhaps if you were to flesh out your unit test coverage of this area of the code, you might be able to prevent issues like this from ever making it to live.
That would have conveyed the same honest criticism, but it would have done so in a polite manner. As my wife frequently has to remind me "it's not just what you say, it's how you say it".
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