Classic Everquest Community? I think not!

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

THERE IS NOTHING CASUAL ABOUT EQ.

Period.

Get.

Over.

It.

Precisely. This is not a game for slackers.

When you get right down to it, "casual" means wanting all of the rewards -- but without doing all of the work.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Precisely. This is not a game for slackers.

When you get right down to it, "casual" means wanting all of the rewards -- but without doing all of the work.

I disagree.

Casual means not caring about all of the rewards, and doing the work THEY want to do, not what their guild leaders want them to do.

[Mady]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Precisely. This is not a game for slackers.

When you get right down to it, "casual" means wanting all of the rewards -- but without doing all of the work.

bullshit

[Braveguard]

So many try to rationalize their own behavior by saying that "everyone" is doing it. Everyone isn't doing it. If you're doing something skeevy, it's because your being a skeeve (dunno if that's a word but it sounds right).

Casual players do not usually want all the rewards with no effort. Most of the casuals I've met are just better at being satisfied with taking in the moment instead of pushing for some imagined post-50 (or whatever the level cap is) goal.

"Nice" people do not turn into douches when they get to high level. If you're a douche at 50, it's not because you have to be or because things change. It's because you're a douche. I played classic at the high end. My entire guild was filled with cool people. I don't remember us ever getting into a flame war. We never stole a camp or got into a shouting match or did any of those things that seem to be a problem here. However... we were not interested in competing to "get there first". We mostly just wanted to play with friends, have a good time and enjoy the game. We did. Of course, we had a few people leave us after a time so they could go to hardcore raid guilds and we had our share of (usually short-term) members who were focused on loot but, generally, we were just happy to do some raiding and grinding together.

As for P99, unfortunately I've seen more bastards than heroes so far. The heroes give me hope that there is still fun to be had though. The biggest problem I see so far is the lack of interest in grouping. I think that's mostly because of my class. I think I might start again as a tank to see if that generates more interest. I group with my regular partner usually but it would be nice to meet more people and I'm thinking the people that group (even when not raiding) might be a different crowd than the hoards of solos out in the Karanas. Maybe one day, we'll even find a guild worth joining.