Game Mechanics: Hide and Sneak and Monster /considers

[Nightblade]

Originally Posted by bulbousaur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in this case, would the best test to be to drop sneak (keep hide up and don't move), then /con the mob? That would let you know if they see through sneak even if you are conning them from behind, would it not?

That is, if you are out of agro range.

You can't hide/sneak, move, and drop sneak without it dropping hide as well. Hide is very much like casting a spell - if you move, it 'interrupts' hide and drops you out of invis. A successful sneak allows you to move around with it up until sneak is dropped again - it'll check your location versus the location of where you were when you initiated hide, see that you're not in the same spot, and pop you out of invis.

Also, Vindor, you will always disappear on your screen when you hit hide, regardless of whether or not you hid successfully. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check to see if you've successfully 'hidden from view' before doing anything.

Regardless, that does seem odd. If you're indifferent to a mob in the frontal 180 cone, you will ALWAYS be indifferent to the mob regardless of proximity. The only factor that I can see is there was some mob around a corner, by a wall, or even through the floor that managed to Z-axis 'assist' because it could see you, resulting in double-nuking action.

[Vindor]

Originally Posted by Nightblade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't hide/sneak, move, and drop sneak without it dropping hide as well. Hide is very much like casting a spell - if you move, it 'interrupts' hide and drops you out of invis. A successful sneak allows you to move around with it up until sneak is dropped again - it'll check your location versus the location of where you were when you initiated hide, see that you're not in the same spot, and pop you out of invis.

Also, Vindor, you will always disappear on your screen when you hit hide, regardless of whether or not you hid successfully. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check to see if you've successfully 'hidden from view' before doing anything.

Regardless, that does seem odd. If you're indifferent to a mob in the frontal 180 cone, you will ALWAYS be indifferent to the mob regardless of proximity. The only factor that I can see is there was some mob around a corner, by a wall, or even through the floor that managed to Z-axis 'assist' because it could see you, resulting in double-nuking action.

Happend to me again in sola today

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But i guess those kind of bug arent exactly top priority cough.

[quido]

Are you sure your hide was successful?

All casters in SolA see invis, but none of the melees should.

[Vindor]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you sure your hide was successful?

All casters in SolA see invis, but none of the melees should.

cant you see the screenshot ?

[quido]

I can, but I guess I'm not experienced enough on a rogue so I'm not sure.

Don't you get the same message even if your hide fails?

[Vindor]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can, but I guess I'm not experienced enough on a rogue so I'm not sure.

Don't you get the same message even if your hide fails?

nope its something as you have failed to hide yourself from view, been a long time since i got one im not sure. Btw it was the cinder goblin right at the zone in, no other goblin could have seen me invis or not [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]