Hot Patch: Monday, February 24th, 2014

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by jarshale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So does sitting get you more aggro or less now? I'm not sure how it was broken before.

I believe they changed it so you got more aggro. but it came out to too much. so they toned it down a bit. I remember getting raped in PoFear trying to med during pulls on live, back in the day.

edit - also, this is not the first time lich has started breaking invis. those code gremlins hate us.

[Buellen]

Hello everyone ran some test just tonight.

Class : enchanter pet: animation test area: Qeynos Aquaducts

Prior to first patch adding increase sit agro I would pull with weaken spell and let animation attack mob till it was at 10 to 15 % then i could sit freely without pulling the mob of my pet.


after first patch adding sit agro. Same mob same spell to pull i would have to wait till animation did 30 percent of mob health to be able to sit freely without puling mob of pet.

After 2nd patch last night same mob same spell to pull. I would have to wait till mob was reduced in health by 16 % and could then sit freely.

Also a very cool thing is mob now has to have line of site to gain agro from sitting to early. If my mob is around corner and being tanked by my animation and i sit it will not rush over to attack me if pet has not done 16% of mob health yet. If I am in line of sight of mob and i sit to early then mob will come over to beat on me.

Read some post that people where still getting agro from sitting from mobs not in line of sight. wonder if those zone have some issues with geometry not blocking line of sight.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Buellen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hello everyone ran some test just tonight.

Class : enchanter pet: animation test area: Qeynos Aquaducts

Prior to first patch adding increase sit agro I would pull with weaken spell and let animation attack mob till it was at 10 to 15 % then i could sit freely without pulling the mob of my pet.


after first patch adding sit agro. Same mob same spell to pull i would have to wait till animation did 30 percent of mob health to be able to sit freely without puling mob of pet.

After 2nd patch last night same mob same spell to pull. I would have to wait till mob was reduced in health by 16 % and could then sit freely.

Also a very cool thing is mob now has to have line of site to gain agro from sitting to early. If my mob is around corner and being tanked by my animation and i sit it will not rush over to attack me if pet has not done 16% of mob health yet. If I am in line of sight of mob and i sit to early then mob will come over to beat on me.

Read some post that people where still getting agro from sitting from mobs not in line of sight. wonder if those zone have some issues with geometry not blocking line of sight.

With no significant actions done to mob, would like to get pet hate generation so you can sit fairly quick after engaging. Somewhere in 2-5% range of damage done to mob by pet.

Haynar

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With no significant actions done to mob, would like to get pet hate generation so you can sit fairly quick after engaging. Somewhere in 2-5% range of damage done to mob by pet.

Haynar

What about significant action but not sitting? Lots of evidence has been provided to demonstrate that pet hate generation should be able to overcome 2-3 detrimental spells being cast on a mob at the very start of the fight and the pet either maintaining agro or very quickly regaining it.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about significant action but not sitting? Lots of evidence has been provided to demonstrate that pet hate generation should be able to overcome 2-3 detrimental spells being cast on a mob at the very start of the fight and the pet either maintaining agro or very quickly regaining it.

And as long as pets can be adjusted without them becoming tanks for raids, they will.

[whitebandit]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And as long as pets can be adjusted without them becoming tanks for raids, they will.

Praises! (death to pras)

[Asap]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And as long as pets can be adjusted without them becoming tanks for raids, they will.

What's the best way to implement this change? Max 4 pets per mob?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Asap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's the best way to implement this change? Max 4 pets per mob?

When we used to kill Dain with 6 mages, the actual caster could perform no action. No pet heals, buffs, anything, or Dain would kill the mage that tried. fwiw.

[Buellen]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With no significant actions done to mob, would like to get pet hate generation so you can sit fairly quick after engaging. Somewhere in 2-5% range of damage done to mob by pet.

Haynar

for completeness sake ill run same test with a thrown dagger as that is far less hate generation than weakness spell. ill post it later when i get it done.

[Buellen]

Hello


Just finished my test on using thrown dagger instead of pulling with weaknes like in my previous post.

zone: qeynos aquducts

Class: enchanter Pet : animation

Pulled mob with a thrown dagger with a missed throw i pulled mob back till animation engaged. I could sit down immediately in mob line of sight without puling agro from my animation.

More info:

Pulled mob with thrown dagger hit for max 10 pts damage. pulled mob back and pet engaged. Had to wait mob was 5 percent to sit down without pulling mob of pet.