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Old 02-24-2014, 09:34 AM
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I was serious about wanting to help, but I wanted to make sure I understood what was expected and that I was capable of fulfilling those expectations before submitting an application.
It's been well over a week and I haven't gotten a response or acknowledgement of my PM. I understand you are volunteers and very busy, but it is difficult not to feel ignored.

Basically I am forced to use dialup (Classic internet) because of where I live. I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't prevent me from being able to do something I had to do.
I have extensive experience in mediating conflicts, which is something desperately needed on Red and you will not find a more honest person. I've done as much as I am capable of to help the server grow over the last couple years, and in doing so earned the respect of a large portion of the population, which would be immeasurably helpful in getting people to listen.

If you wish to decline my offer, that's cool. If interested, please let me know, preferably by PM. I like to speak to people directly when possible and not publicly, which was the purpose of the original PM.
my first app was ignored for months. if they want you i think they will reply. if not then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. they wont say yes or no, i think they just say yes or nothing.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:55 PM
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my first app was ignored for months. if they want you i think they will reply. if not then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. they wont say yes or no, i think they just say yes or nothing.
If this is the case, I must admit it is incredibly disappointing. If you ask people to do something like submit applications, it should be your responsibility to inform people that they were declined or accepted.
I hated having to tell people on Live that they did not make the vote for guild membership and would have to disband, especially when women cried and it made me feel terrible. I could have just kicked them out, but I believe people deserve an explanation and not be left to wonder. If you are not willing to do the unpleasant duties, I do not believe you should be in a position of authority.

I don't mean that as an accusation against the GMs, it is just another of my unyielding principles. However, if that is the present method of operation, I must respectfully withdraw my interest in being a Guide.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:41 PM
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If this is the case, I must admit it is incredibly disappointing. If you ask people to do something like submit applications, it should be your responsibility to inform people that they were declined or accepted.
I hated having to tell people on Live that they did not make the vote for guild membership and would have to disband, especially when women cried and it made me feel terrible. I could have just kicked them out, but I believe people deserve an explanation and not be left to wonder. If you are not willing to do the unpleasant duties, I do not believe you should be in a position of authority.

I don't mean that as an accusation against the GMs, it is just another of my unyielding principles. However, if that is the present method of operation, I must respectfully withdraw my interest in being a Guide.
Have you ever applied to a job? Ever hired for one? This is really no different. You submit an application, it's reviewed and if they are interested you will be contacted.

If you haven't heard anything you can safely assume the answer is no. Most companies (or unpaid volunteer staff) don't have the time or desire to reach out to dozens if not hundreds of people just to tell them "tough shit".
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:56 PM
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Have you ever applied to a job? Ever hired for one? This is really no different. You submit an application, it's reviewed and if they are interested you will be contacted.

If you haven't heard anything you can safely assume the answer is no. Most companies (or unpaid volunteer staff) don't have the time or desire to reach out to dozens if not hundreds of people just to tell them "tough shit".
I agree with your analogy except for comparing a company looking for paid employees to a volunteer program asking for others to volunteer 20+ hours a week of their time.
If you ask someone to give 20 hours a week to essentially help you, and they offer to do so, giving them 20 seconds to say, "thanks, but we've gone a different way" should not be inconceivable.
Treating others the way you wish to be treated is a dying concept but one I wholeheartedly stand behind.

My mother used to run the Volunteer Program at the Human Society Animal Shelter and I guarantee no one who volunteered, to clean up dog and cat shit no less, was ever simply ignored whether or not their assistance was needed.

P.S. Retti isn't this where you talk about how much you lift weights and can beat my ass in real life? I cannot help but feel pity for you.
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