Etiquette in Blackburrow...?!

[Lyrith]

::These are not the Gnoll Fangs you are looking for::

[Velerin]

I don't think they really ever bottom out though. I remember a while back I was about 98/99% into 49. I was running thru GF and thought I'd test out the cb belt exp. Bought about 10 from a newbie, ran over and turned them in...ding 50.

[xexbis0]

Wow that dude is an ass. I would use petition on the forums and provide the picture as opposed to in-game petitions. They're going to want that picture anyways for proof.

Do us all a favor and get that dude banned for a week+.

[BarackObooma]

“I know that turning in the Gnoll Fangs grants a massive XP boost from levels 1-24”

This is correct. Experience is even good beyond that actually. Especially for classes that have a hard time soloing.

I would like to provide an alternative point of view on this. Please understand that people who have leveled other characters are no longer in the P99 honeymoon phase. Leveling becomes a grind and you want to get it over with as quickly as possible.

I’m an altoholic and have a character of almost every class (and multiples of some classes). This means I am usually broke and can’t afford (or won’t pay 2-3k an hour) to be power leveled. I’ve learned what zones/quests/etc. give the best experience. This is why you’ll see my toons in Blackburrow from level 3-20s.

I have calculated that each fang turn in is around 19,000-20,000 experience.

See the leveling chart at:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62213

For a 22 Ranger it took exactly 100 fangs to go from 22 to 23 (1,387,000 x 1.4 = 1,941,800 experience needed to level – divided by 100 equates to the 19-20k per fang estimate).

When not many people are in the zone, it takes maybe 2-3 hours to do that. The higher your level the faster you kill so you really don’t slow down leveling unless there is a lot of competition.

For that same level 22 Ranger soloing level 20 mobs in an outdoor zone (75 ZEM), you’d get 30,000 experience per mob solo. You would need to solo (1,941,800 / 30k) approximately 65 mobs to level. This means you would need to kill each one every 2 minutes with no downtime to med/heal to get equitable experience. This is not likely.

So if I can level faster, with no down time and pretty much no chance of dying, why wouldn't I take that option?

With that being said, it’s not okay for someone to tell another person where they can and can’t level. You can move to a different zone just as easily as they can. You are just as self-serving in your wants as a higher level is.

I do my best to give back. I’ve saved dozens of people from dying, have split camps for people, have pulled mobs for lower levels that they can pick off one at a time, have given backpacks full of earrings and neck pieces to newbies, have led lost people out of the dungeon, etc. I am also camping the commanders for their shoulderpads for an enchanter guildie.

What have you done for anyone else besides complain about other people? Who’s really the inconsiderate/selfish one?

The rogue kill stealing you was wrong but you provoked the situation by doing /rude and probably telling him where he should or shouldn't level.

I really do hope you enjoy your time on P99. Blackburrow is an anomoly so don't think every zone is like that.

If you want the best rewards you're going to have to compete. Learn this now because if you want to raid later you won't be handed anything on a silver platter even with the new raid changes.

[Iumuno]

Originally Posted by BarackObooma;1337115

I have calculated that each fang turn in is around 19,000-20,000 experience.

See the leveling chart at:
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http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62213[/url]

For a 22 Ranger it took exactly 100 fangs to go from 22 to 23 (1,387,000 x 1.4 = 1,941,800 experience needed to level – divided by 100 equates to the 19-20k per fang estimate).

When not many people are in the zone, it takes maybe 2-3 hours to do that. The higher your level the faster you kill so you really don’t slow down leveling unless there is a lot of competition.

For that same level 22 Ranger soloing level 20 mobs in an outdoor zone (75 ZEM), you’d get 30,000 experience per mob solo. You would need to solo (1,941,800 / 30k) approximately 65 mobs to level. This means you would need to kill each one every 2 minutes with no downtime to med/heal to get equitable experience. This is not likely.

I think you just made a great case for nerfing BB fangs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fadetree]

Fangs are good up until 14ish, then ok to 18 or so. Kinda ghetto after that but if you are really obsessive you can take em to 20.

[rollin5k]

definately one of the easiest ways to get to 20.
gets the alt fiends frothing some times no big deal man. there are so many other cool places to level.

[kudlezz]

This is so bizarre - a good group in any number of dungeons around the game can get you that much experience / more. You also don't have to rob newbies of their ability to level in Blackburrow.

I'd be fine if they just disabled the quest in the mid teens or so. Get people the hell out of the dungeon if most of it is green to them.

[BarackObooma]

Originally Posted by kudlezz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so bizarre - a good group in any number of dungeons around the game can get you that much experience / more. You also don't have to rob newbies of their ability to level in Blackburrow.

I'd be fine if they just disabled the quest in the mid teens or so. Get people the hell out of the dungeon if most of it is green to them.

I disagree with your first assertation. A hybrid getting a level every 2-3 hours isn't likely even if you could find a good group immediately. I've done the grouping thing and that's why I'm back to soloing.

Everyone's playing situation is different. Because this is an alt, I have limited time to play him. Because of my time zone (I may play between midnight and 5am server time), grouping isn't always an option. The need to be able to log at a moments notice isn't ideal for grouping either. Also, finding any group let alone a good group that doesn't mind grouping with hybrids isn't always quick. So if I can pop on for an hour and get a stack of fangs I'm happy.

What some people seem to forget is mobs are up to level 25 in Blackburrow. Lord Elgnub is 25 and very nasty for his level. If you accidentally bump into him, you won't make it to the zoneline. Also, if you try to clear the commander cubby with a refugee splitpaw and a gnoll high shaman, you better be in a good group (99% of the people I are solo or duo or being PL'd) or be 22 so you don't get nailed by two casters (two of which blind you) and two elites.

I focus on the commander rooms (there are three) because they are left alone a lot and I can get rusty spiked shoulderpads. If there's not many people in the zone, sure I'll start slaughtering other areas but I am respectful of other people and groups. I don't run up and grab all the mobs in front of someone.

Regarding your 2nd point. If they nerfed the gnoll fang experience, blackburrow would be a ghost town. The lowbies would all be moving to Crushbone or East Commons to beg for buffs/gear. They want the exact same thing as the higher levels, quick easy, experience. They are not victims, there are plenty of places to level. They can find mobs 1-50 in Everfrost/Qeynos hills which are on either side of Blackburrow.

[Joyelle]

Bahkrel is a huge turd and he harasses people in tells quite frequently. Not surprised to see his name come up in a post like this.