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Old 02-19-2014, 01:13 PM
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It would be smart of Nihilum to keep RD as a sort of non-KoS neutral guild. Reminds me of Defiant on VZ, and the general agreement on the server for all lighty guilds not to attack one another. After players played at the high end for a bit, and if they decided they wanted to try their hand at doing the top-tier content, they were a lot more likely to join the guild they had some PUGs with, and who never killed them; over the big x-team guilds. RD and Nihilum can exist in a benevolent relationship for as long as Nihilum's place as top raid guild isn't threatened. This is especially true in Velious.
A TON of truth and wisdom to this. Let's be real, and my members know this, Red Dawn is not in a position to compete head to head with Nihilum currently. Can we snipe targets w/o pvp? Absolutely. But in terms of going into Karnor's and taking VS from them in mass pvp? It ain't happening right now, and to be honest we're likely months and months away from that. We have a ton of new members we need to focus on, lots of lowbies, lots of people needing gear, etc. While we certainly will rush targets on repop days and what not, and many of our established veteran players will engage in world pvp with Nihilum on the pvp server, when it comes to guild v guild mass pvp, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go toe to toe with the Duke at the moment, and even when we do, we would like to do so in a fun and respectable manner not with the endless ooc shit talk and forum posts and all the other garbage.

Those who want to rush contesting today are only leading to the ultimate downfall of the guild by looking for too much too soon. That's why I basically pushed a few members out the door and told them go to Azrael. If contesting today in mass pvp is your goal, Red Dawn isn't going to be the guild for you. Six months from now? Sure, maybe. But today? No way, doesn't make sense. Now, prior with Azrael merged with us sure that was a possibility. But now that we're on our own, this is the reality, and I have zero issue with it. Thanks!
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:16 PM
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Those who want to rush contesting today are only leading to the ultimate downfall of the guild by looking for too much too soon. That's why I basically pushed a few members out the door and told them go to Azrael. If contesting today in mass pvp is your goal, Red Dawn isn't going to be the guild for you. Six months from now? Sure, maybe. But today? No way, doesn't make sense. Now, prior with Azrael merged with us sure that was a possibility. But now that we're on our own, this is the reality, and I have zero issue with it. Thanks!
i coined lite doing it "slamming the guilds dick in the door".

edit: repeatedly knowing the outcome would be a loss and just sending you all to die. I don't know what his reasoning was.
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:38 PM
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i coined lite doing it "slamming the guilds dick in the door".

edit: repeatedly knowing the outcome would be a loss and just sending you all to die. I don't know what his reasoning was.
You are a retard sell out. The only way you can respectively flip flop is if you are a factor. With your playtime and weasel antics it is absolutely amazing the amount of factor you amount to. Then again, all you need to do is watch your BoTB performance and witness you nuking a mage pet while getting nuked and realize no amount of playtime can help such an insignifiCUNT.
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:19 PM
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A TON of truth and wisdom to this. Let's be real, and my members know this, Red Dawn is not in a position to compete head to head with Nihilum currently. Can we snipe targets w/o pvp? Absolutely. But in terms of going into Karnor's and taking VS from them in mass pvp? It ain't happening right now, and to be honest we're likely months and months away from that. We have a ton of new members we need to focus on, lots of lowbies, lots of people needing gear, etc. While we certainly will rush targets on repop days and what not, and many of our established veteran players will engage in world pvp with Nihilum on the pvp server, when it comes to guild v guild mass pvp, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go toe to toe with the Duke at the moment, and even when we do, we would like to do so in a fun and respectable manner not with the endless ooc shit talk and forum posts and all the other garbage.

Those who want to rush contesting today are only leading to the ultimate downfall of the guild by looking for too much too soon. That's why I basically pushed a few members out the door and told them go to Azrael. If contesting today in mass pvp is your goal, Red Dawn isn't going to be the guild for you. Six months from now? Sure, maybe. But today? No way, doesn't make sense. Now, prior with Azrael merged with us sure that was a possibility. But now that we're on our own, this is the reality, and I have zero issue with it. Thanks!
Yeah, it does make a lot more sense for RD to play nice with Nihilum than it does to maintain a decent relationship with Azrael, when it's been nothing but tenuous in the past.

Prediction from an outsider: Azrael fast making themselves a "non-factor".
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