Building a Mosque??? WTF

Enderenter · #1 09-01-2010, 05:52 PM

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As for the violent biblical references, they are not the same as the Koran has. The violence of the old testament was done at a specific time and that context is over now. The gospel doesn't instruct Christians to be violent in the present tense. The Koran does. That's why there are entire countries of Muslims that believe and hope for demise of non Muslim states.

To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?

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Let me know the next time a Christian cuts a mans head off on camera while praying and chanting and puts it o. YouTube. It is not comparable with anything in the Christian faith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

fastboy21 · #2 09-01-2010, 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=Enderenter;132218]To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?

I didn't say every person in the country. But there are entire states (Iran for example) that are Muslim Theocracies that have called for destruction on non-muslim states.

Give me a modern example of a Christian theocracy that is doing this.

azeth · #3 09-01-2010, 05:56 PM

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To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?

I didn't say every person in the country. But there are entire states (Iran for example) that are Muslim Theocracies that have called for destruction on non-muslim states.

Give me a modern example of a Christian theocracy that is doing this.

No sorry i cannot provide you an example of the shit you make up.

read a fucking book, for goodness sake.

azeth · #4 09-01-2010, 05:57 PM

What the fuck, Fastboy screwed up the quote so now my post is effed.

Above post was supposed to quote Fastboy

fastboy21 · #5 09-01-2010, 06:07 PM

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No sorry i cannot provide you an example of the shit you make up.

read a fucking book, for goodness sake.

I don't understand why you think my pointing out that there are no Christian Theocracies in the world that are practicing radical Christianity. This difference is at the heart of the difference between the relative scale of violence between the two faiths.

I guess its easier to curse and tell me to read a book when you don't like what I am saying. For the record, not only do I read books but I was also a practicing Muslim for a short while and know first hand the types of radical thought that circulates in some circles. It is not symmetrical when compared to Christianity.

Enderenter · #6 09-01-2010, 06:02 PM

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I didn't say every person in the country. But there are entire states (Iran for example) that are Muslim Theocracies that have called for destruction on non-muslim states.

The problem with your line of reasoning is that you are associating the people (Muslims) in the state of Iran with the government of the state of Iran. Just because a government is horrible does not make the people who are trapped under it horrible. There is no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of the Iranian people are hoping for the demise of their government.

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Give me a modern example of a Christian theocracy that is doing this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_d...c_of_the_Congo

Erasong · #7 09-01-2010, 06:05 PM

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The problem with your line of reasoning is that you are associating the people (Muslims) in the state of Iran with the government of the state of Iran. Just because a government is horrible does not make the people who are trapped under it horrible. There is no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of the Iranian people are hoping for the demise of their government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_d...c_of_the_Congo

Remember the HUGE civil unrest in IRan recently over the elections? Ya definitely a people in full support of their government.

fastboy21 · #8 09-01-2010, 06:12 PM

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Remember the HUGE civil unrest in IRan recently over the elections? Ya definitely a people in full support of their government.

To the best of my knowledge the civil unrest was surrounding the election fraud of their president (aka, their civil secular leader---at least in name). It wasn't in protest of the "Supreme Leader" (aka, their real leader). The theocracy wasn't being challenged, only the secular arm of their government.

I do agree with you though that the unrest in Iran is a good sign for democracy in Iran...and is a good example pointing out how Iran may not always be a backwards theocracy someday in the future.

purist · #9 09-01-2010, 06:20 PM

Fastboy can you stop talking now? If you read a newspaper at all you'd know that the people protesting were chanting "Death to the Dictator" (clearly referring to the Supreme Leader) and openly defying the Iranian supreme leader's command not to demonstrate in the streets (and instead take to the limits of their cleric-lead system).

fastboy21 · #10 09-01-2010, 06:27 PM

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Fastboy can you stop talking now? If you read a newspaper at all you'd know that the people protesting were chanting "Death to the Dictator" (clearly referring to the Supreme Leader) and openly defying the Iranian supreme leader's command not to demonstrate in the streets (and instead take to the limits of their cleric-lead system).

Why were they protesting? It was because of the secular election fraud of their president. Sans election fraud no protests...

I already said that I thought it was a good sign for budding democracy in Iran. Growth of democracy would mean a simultaneous demise of their theocracy, at least in the form that it exists today. I never said otherwise.