Luclin models...a poll

[fwaits]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're already seeing some very significant options which were not available at that time, by virtue of the fact that we're using a 2005 client. Updated and improved ground textures, UI features, etc. The whole "if it wasn't there in 1999, then I don't want it" stance is already moot because of this fact.

Notice that nobody is complaining about having an in-game compass, or improved chat features, or a more logical UI arrangement, or nicer looking zones and buildings. I find that glaring lack of consistency in their attitudes to be rather hypocritical.

And I am further amused by the people who in one post say things like "It's just a cosmetic difference and hence it is unimportant." And then in another post, that same person will say "I want everyone else to see the same character on my screen as I do." Well, wait a minute... if cosmetic differences are "unimportant," then why is there such a concern over what everyone else sees when they look at your toon..? And if cosmetic differences are "unimportant," then why do you care whether or not other players can have the character models that they prefer..? Again... we see irrational and dictatorial hypocrisy from the status quo.

What we are REALLY seeing in this thread is a lot of "I want everyone else to think, see and do things exactly the same way that I do." Uh huh. So much for individuality. Let's all be single-minded, group-thinking sheeple together. No thanks.

Man you are really vehement about having these models aren't you? Anyway, as I said, if it's decided they are allowed then great, I won't cry about it. I gave my opinion on why it makes more sense to not have them. The other items you cited are beyond the devs ability to control so they are not in the same boat as the player models. So why is our opinion so "irrational" and yours is not? Just because it is not yours doesn't make it less valid. And you trying to demean others opinions just makes yours even less substantial because your being an ass about it.

Luclin is every bit as "classic" as Kunark and Velious. Same exact dev team, same exact era, same pre-SOE rule set.

That's great and all, but classic as defined by this server is up to Velious as the devs HERE have stated many times. Same reason you won't see Vah Shir players on Project 1999.

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by fwaits [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Man you are really vehement about having these models aren't you?

Nope, I am more vehement about stating the facts of the matter, without allowing my opinions to be unduly colored with nostalgic, selectively remembered visions that simply do not hold water.

If you were actually there, full-time, from 1999 up through Luclin, then you need to think back objectively and try to remember the actual things that most of us were saying and doing at that time. And what I remember most of all in relation to this topic is that MOST of the players were bitching about the obsolete appearance of the original models. That's why Verant changed them in the first place: because most of the players wanted them to be upgraded.

[fwaits]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, I am more vehement about stating the facts of the matter, without allowing my opinions to be unduly colored with nostalgic, selectively remembered visions that simply do not hold water.

If you were actually there, full-time, from 1999 up through Luclin, then you need to think back objectively and try to remember the actual things that most of us were saying and doing at that time. And what I remember most of all in relation to this topic is that MOST of the players were bitching about the obsolete appearance of the original models. That's why Verant changed them in the first place: because most of the players wanted them to be upgraded.

That's fine, but as the poll shows, most DON'T want them here. Whatever the reason(s) may be.