Why I don't like to group

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by Aetherial [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess what I am saying is that there is so exageration going on about kill rates on this thread I think.

.... or I just suck; also a possibility.

Well... my old main was a DE necro and yes, there is a certain amount of exaggeration happening here. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I said about quad-kiting for wizzies was accurate, though.

Regarding necro pets... they aren't usually "un-buffed." We have our own pet buff spells (AC and haste buff), along with at least three different ways to heal the pet during combat.

[Aetherial]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well... my old main was a DE necro and yes, there is a certain amount of exaggeration happening here. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I said about quad-kiting for wizzies was accurate, though.

Regarding necro pets... they aren't usually "un-buffed." We have our own pet buff spells (AC and haste buff), along with at least three different ways to heal the pet during combat.

I mentioned unbuffed because that would mean no mana required for buff refresh. I was trying to come up with a fastest-kill, most efficient scenario to make a point

even wizzie or druid quad kiting has down time, and do they kill 4 mobs every minute they are fighting? They would have to, at least!, to to net out at 2-3/ minute.

I can't think of a quad-kiting place with a fast enough respawn to go steady at 2/3 mobs / minute.

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by Aetherial [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't think of a quad-kiting place with a fast enough respawn to go steady at 2/3 mobs / minute.

Well, there's no such place for a full group to pull that fast, either. Even a godly group is gonna end up clearing the place and then you gotta wait for re-pops.

Everybody has downtime, whether it be a group or solo. Same for everybody, in that regard.

Cobalt Scar was a great place for quads, mainly because the respawn timer on the mobs roughly coincided with your downtime if you had a brain buff. When I hunted there, and assuming that I wasn't competing with a bunch of druids for pulls (grrr), I could usually just keep pulling a new quad every five or ten minutes. Or to be more accurate, I could usually do two quads back-to-back, then med up for about ten minutes, and then run out and pull another two quads. And by the time I finished medding up after that, the first two groups of wyverns had re-popped. So really, the only major factor in the entire deal was downtime for medding... which as I say, would be an equal factor whether you solo'ed or grouped.

[Aetherial]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, there's no such place for a full group to pull that fast, either. Even a godly group is gonna end up clearing the place and then you gotta wait for re-pops.

Everybody has downtime, whether it be a group or solo. Same for everybody, in that regard.

Cobalt Scar was a great place for quads, mainly because the respawn timer on the mobs roughly coincided with your downtime if you had a brain buff. When I hunted there, and assuming that I wasn't competing with a bunch of druids for pulls (grrr), I could usually just keep pulling a new quad every five or ten minutes. Or to be more accurate, I could usually do two quads back-to-back, then med up for about ten minutes, and then run out and pull another two quads. And by the time I finished medding up after that, the first two groups of wyverns had re-popped. So really, the only major factor in the entire deal was downtime for medding... which as I say, would be an equal factor whether you solo'ed or grouped.

I do not believe this. In a balanced group, depending on the relative strength of what you are hunting, you can med up during fights, or sit one out, or use minimal mana on the easier fights...

A group can go more steadily without much downtime, in the grindier zones.

That is not to say they exp faster. I believe certain classes exp faster solo. The one HUGE advantage is not waiting on a group, waiting for people to be ready in a group, waiting on AFK for biobreaks, or waiting on a replacement healer/slower/tank which are necessary in some areas...