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Old 01-28-2014, 05:00 PM
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i did look at an ogre but i assumed that the regen would be the way forward?
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:18 PM
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hi guys

i did look at an ogre but i assumed that the regen would be the way forward?
Regen becomes a lot less useful at 60 if you have torpor 1200-1500 healing depending on how the ticks fall. Having higher max HP at that point allows you to canni down to the point where you're getting the full torpor effect without getting dangerously low.
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:11 PM
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Regen becomes a lot less useful at 60 if you have torpor 1200-1500 healing depending on how the ticks fall. Having higher max HP at that point allows you to canni down to the point where you're getting the full torpor effect without getting dangerously low.
On top of that, many of the fun mobs a Shaman might want to solo at high levels summon them, which makes the normal root/rot approach impossible. Against these mobs, an Ogre is guaranteed to be able to cast through stuns, while any other race has to deal with their casting being interrupted by a stun.

Power hierarchy of shaman races IMHO:

Ogre > Troll > Barbarian > Iksar

That being said, I play a Barbarian Shaman myself: there's really no wrong choce, just a more or less power game-y choice.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:25 PM
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Ogre > Troll > Barbarian > Iksar

That being said, I play a Barbarian Shaman myself: there's really no wrong choce, just a more or less power game-y choice.
Yup, although Iksar are incredibly behind even Barbarians.

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Or maybe everyone just stopped caring because the JBB was garbage when you got to even higher levels?
JBB becomes obsolete around PoP.

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Yeah, I agree Torpor sort of makes the JBB not as much needed.
These things aren't really related. In fact it's at 60 once you have Torpor when you'll be using the JBB the most. Mobs do a lot of damage when you're soloing them, even when slowed. You can put your mana towards Torpor / debuffs while using JBB and pet to DPS.

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But Torpor is a 100k spell as of late and damn hard to even get IF you have the plat.
Upwards of 160k recently.
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