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Old 01-25-2014, 06:04 AM
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Stick to the thing you're good at..stealing pixels off of peoples accounts.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:11 AM
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Got prof? Didn't think so, Stick to what you know best. Training trakanon raids and being bad. prof=video taken and YT records. U so bad u mad
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:17 PM
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Got prof? Didn't think so, Stick to what you know best. Training trakanon raids and being bad. prof=video taken and YT records. U so bad u mad
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:21 PM
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So red dawn DKP system massively flawed, CHECK.

red dawn members continue to msg friends in and out of guild(even nihilum members) saying how bad the loot system is and how certain people are toxic to the guild, CHECK.

Red dawn all together does NOT have the fairest loot system on the server, CHECK.

What did we learn here? Red Dawn members, Just farm items and sell them for dkp. Then only show up to the important raids to get that good item. Bonus if you level an extra char to 60 for what is it, +50dkp for having a alt 60? Yaw yaw YAW
So much dumb in this post. It's bid dkp, there's no massive flaw. If you don't like bid dkp, then that's your choice, but I'll take that over a loot council every day of the week.

There's no farming items allowed for dkp. There's a system that allows the selling of gear you upgrade from to be put back into the guild via auction. A system that rewards assisting and making the guild stronger. Literally only three people have chosen to do so. Two of whom are some of the highest RA members in the guild.

There is a bonus for being sixty, as there should be, since level 60 is the most important thing you can do in this game for both pve and pvp, and it allowed a starting pile of dkp to bid with.

Many people who were at the top of the dkp system a week ago are already at the bottom now. And that's the whole point. It's the friendliest system to newer members in a MMO and to those players who are from a time zone that things don't spawn on as often. Even though their RA may be low they can still save up for the item they want.

There is no flaw in capitalism but there are tears. Some people can't handle the notion that they need to decide what an item is worth to them, and would prefer some fat nerd decides who gets what. Personally, I don't care for fat nerds. But I do like capitalism.

I'm sure there's a couple of pixel whores upset spreading bs, as there are in every guild (heard gyno wasn't too happy about the sow sword). Some people will always be mad if they are not the ones getting every item. That's a MMO for you though.

Wouldn't it be nice to decide you'd like to save up for an AoN, not spend any of your dkp on other items, and go all in for it? Or a crown of rile? Or be allowed to main switch at a dkp penalty but then spend the rest of your hard earned dkp rather than accumulate a meaningless number? I sure think so. Sorry you disagree pal but your opinion isn't a fact, it's an opinion. I believe in empowering the individual members and I respect and have enough faith in them that they know what to do with their dkp. I wish you continued success, however, with the nihilum nanny state approach. I hear nancy pelosi has endorsed your system!
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:42 PM
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It's the friendliest system to newer members in a MMO and to those players who are from a time zone that things don't spawn on as often.
you claim it capitalist, but this is the most socialist thing u can say

friendly to new players? what about the vets and neckbeards that are actually showing up to raids and carrying the guild?

our system still the better

even the new one we are using in velious is better

god shut up already
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:44 PM
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Or be allowed to main switch at a dkp penalty but then spend the rest of your hard earned dkp rather than accumulate a meaningless number?
was also going to say shouldnt even be allowed

with the invested no drop gear into a toon
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:51 PM
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Wow that Freez screenshot is game over,why isn't Agatha and Jupe at the very least suspended for 6 months?
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:58 PM
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Which one would Nihilum fall under? hmmm.
I find it pretty weird that you guys are so Gung ho about your DKP resetting to zero when velious comes out.

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Old 01-25-2014, 01:06 PM
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This server and the loser Nihilum's that dedicate their lives to controlling it exhaust me.

Good on you HB - don't let it burn you out pal, we all know they will go this hard forever, as it is their entire lives.

Systems good, systems fun - Quiet was a faggot, called him out a few times for being a bleeding vagina, no doubt he's the first drama faggot from RD.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:06 PM
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friendly to new players? what about the vets and neckbeards that are actually showing up to raids and carrying the guild?
If you are a vet/neckbeard, then you should have a ton of DKP from attending raids. Which you can either save or spend your DKP however you see fit.

I'll give you two real world examples using our two loot systems.
Red Dawn:
You work at your job and you save your money. You go on Ebay and outbid the other people for a new computer with the money that you earned, the computer arrives in the mail.

Nihilum:
You work at your job and you save your money. You go on Ebay, you outbid the other people for a new computer with the the money that you earned, but the guy selling it decides that someone else with less to bid with deserves it more than you for one reason or another. Better luck next time.

Our way is better, sorry.
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