Sirken+Deru v Rogean on server rules

[Yibz]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just like someone would go out into a busy highway because they see traffic would apply the same to someone NOT training because they see a raid force that they may effect...



I know the mechanics of the zone and encounters. If you aggro a golem or draco the cycle begins it doesn't necessarily begin with who aggro'd it as Aeolwind pointed out isn't within the script. From what i also understand is the cycle is currently not operating like it should, which is why CT has rapid DT's upon engage.

If you read what i wrote i didn't banish your strategy at all. However, as you know from what you said and Rogean's quote you ran the risk of getting punished by your own actions. There isn't set in stone the fact that you HAVE to train in order to succeed there, it's all in the choice of tactic.

If you feel there aren't many places to train especially with other people in zone, then use a different tactic or you run the risk of punishment with these new rules.

Kiter that aggro'd CT/golem/draco is always the first person to get DTd. There's no such thing as a DT cycle. It hasn't worked that way for months.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My bad. I forgot about nilbog's desire to see corpses littered across Norrath.

no worries, thats why im here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Yibz]

I did avoid them.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CT of course cause whoever engages him first gets DT'd.

Also, what you're saying is currently whoever engages Draco or a golem at all receives a DT now?

Not having done it in the few months you mentioned myself, i have went off of what others said (members of your guild and others) in regards to those DTs seem to get stored on CT instead of actually going throughout the zone. Which is why CT has extra engage DTs.

Regardless, I know you have the experience which is why it is a little shocking you couldn't avoid them better.

Thing is, ct / draco / golems are to the right (east?) of the portal and to the north, your guild is going to sit up north, if you go only northwest you're not going to have room to avoid casters n such and lead in a wide enough circle (hard to keep em all 100% together). Need some area in SW, which is fine if they were on the wall--I'm guessing the pullers interacted with the train in some way and it all went pear shaped from there.

[Babayaaga]

How hard would it be to remove old posts with rulesets that no longer apply?

Seems a pretty simple solution, no?

[Yibz]

Do you have a clue what you're talking about?

There's a reason for the disconnect between the way Sirken, Deurbael, TMO and IB/FE view the situation and the way the casual horde & Rogean are viewing it.

Hint: one of these groups has been to a competetive CT raid in the last 2 years.

[Kagatob]

Our you know, have someone besides Jeremy stating that they no longer apply.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Yibz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have a clue what you're talking about?

There's a reason for the disconnect between the way Sirken, Deurbael, TMO and IB/FE view the situation and the way the casual horde & Rogean are viewing it.

Hint: one of these groups has been to a competetive CT raid in the last 2 years.

elites gonna elite

[Yibz]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I went off of the fact Rogean himself (the owner of this entire thing with content creator Nilbog) said he was there watching with his own eyes.

So if he felt the need to suspend according to the new rules, i'd assume there was wrong doing. It's obvious some disagree which is your right... but doesn't change the outcome.

Raid suspension happened to try and mend that disconnect, Rogean/Nilbog's ruleset was put in place for everyone hence why we are raiding again.

So you think I should have been suspended because of the fact that I was suspended? Maybe next time you should just say that instead of feigning critical thinking and boasting about your knowledge of incorrect game mechanics and hearsay.

[Raavak]

One thing that begins to stand out clearly is how much the Class C guildmembers understand about EQ mechanics and how oblivious Class R guildmembers tend to be.