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Old 01-15-2014, 06:18 PM
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I didn't get a chance to play DAoC due to my EQ immersion levels at the time. I think I'll give this a shot.

Ex-DAoC Pro's - What are the ez mode classes? Kind of like wizard in EQ.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:27 PM
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Uthgard, a server similar to origins has a population that is highly based in euro timezone (roughly 80%) so a lot of the mass pvp is hard to find. I'm not sure what origins is like but its also based in Europe so its something to consider.

I played DAoC a lot back in the day and I can give you some insight on ez mode classes. First, pvp endgame in DAoC is based around a core 8 man group. Sometimes there are zergs but the majority of guilds run in strict 8 man groups. Each faction has a vastly diverse class selection and that will dictate a lot of class options. There are also stealther groups/zergs that usually never participate in 8 man runs but are effective at ganking solos/duos or other stealthy.

EZ mode classes in PVE are:

Albion: Necromancer (By far best soloer in game)
Midgard: Bonedancer (can have up to 4 pets at a time, some of which heal or do damage plus has access to a easy mode instant cast life-tap, will pull mobs and tank)
Hibernia: Tough choice here, animist is an amazing class but not ez mode because there's a lot of thought and management that goes into summoning pets and where to summon.

PVP I wont touch to much on because it really is determined by how you play. As I said before you can really go one of 4 styles in DAoC. You can solo roam, stealth zerg, realm zerg, or 8 man. All classes can pretty much be effective but in 8 man groups you are expected to play certain specialized classes.

Midgard: Shaman, Healer, Zerker, Warrior, Savage, Runemaster
Albion: Sorc, Cabalist, Armsman, Merc, Cleric
Hibernia: Bard, Druid, Blademaster, Eldritch, Enchanter, Hero

Probably missing a few, if I am I will edit as I just did a rough draft to give you an idea of what to expect. I would not suggest you play a Bard or Healer (Mid Class) as a first time char as they are highly advanced classes. Melee are not terribly hard to play in DAoC due to the stick command but positioning is very important in DAoC as well as reaction for triggering certain weapon attacks.

My recommendation is to try a Bonedancer for Midgard. While not as great at soloing as a Albion Necromancer, they are able to still be effective in PVP, just not 8 man groups.

One last thing, and a warning to all who plan to play the stealth classes (including archers/assassins) you will most likely never get a group in PVE and leveling will be slow, more so for assassins as archers can solo decently. Those include:
Albion: Infiltrator & Scout
Midgard: Hunter & Shadowblade
Hibernia: Ranger & Nightshade
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:43 PM
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I'll be playing on that DAoC sever. My name is Pooxi on the albion side
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:10 PM
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One last thing, and a warning to all who plan to play the stealth classes (including archers/assassins) you will most likely never get a group in PVE and leveling will be slow
Could you elaborate? I was planning to play a stealthy type. Why are daoc rogues not group friendly or solo friendly? Seems like a class that would be welcome in groups but that is probably my eq bias speaking.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:48 PM
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Could you elaborate? I was planning to play a stealthy type. Why are daoc rogues not group friendly or solo friendly? Seems like a class that would be welcome in groups but that is probably my eq bias speaking.
mostly due to the volume of players playing them. there are a metric crap ton of stealth class players in daoc, so it can be difficult to find a group. classes that can take more of a hit or provide more group utility are usually preferred, dps was never a huge concern in the game.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:43 PM
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Could you elaborate? I was planning to play a stealthy type. Why are daoc rogues not group friendly or solo friendly? Seems like a class that would be welcome in groups but that is probably my eq bias speaking.
It has to do with several things for which:

1) Assassins/Archers DPS is not good, they are based around spike damage, not sustained damage, furthermore a archer cannot do a crit shot to a mob that is already in combat.

2) The nature of PVE in DAoC is such that if you have a full group when you pull a mob you will get 3-4 mobs. You can single pull in DAoC but efficient groups don't do this because they don't get a massive "group" exp bonus that the game awards for pulling packs of mobs. This means that your group is going to need 3 characters that can take hits, especially if mobs resist mez, which happens all the time.

Throw out everything you know about rogues in other games because in DAoC they are very fragile. Some rogues that are very high realm ranks and who have severe advantages over enemies will win 1v1 (outside of stealth) but it is not the norm, a rogue in DAoC is all about the burst damage to eliminate a target quickly.

And as Marglar notes, there are a lot of them. Hibernia will be full of Rangers because they are very powerful on a non buffbot server because they have a spec line with very good self buffs. Albion will have a lot of infiltrators because many regard them as the best assassin. If you want a challenge, give Midgard a try, at least their assassin (shadowblade) can wield 2 handers, but I wouldn't recommend it :P
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:57 PM
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It sux this is launching at the beginning of the spring semester. Should have launched for the winter or summer break. I can't even bother to download it because I know its going to be a mad time sink. Looks like a ball though.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:59 PM
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Old 01-15-2014, 11:06 PM
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I think eq PVP looks just as retarded to people not de sensitized to it. Basically all PVP looks bad.

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Old 01-15-2014, 11:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yga3V1kvvpU

More likely what you'll be seeing. Link runzero posted was from live servers with new frontiers and shit ToA expansion.
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