A reply to a thread in the Raid Discussion section.

[Pint]

I didnt read your whole post bc it is very long, however I dont think that doljon's stance is that outrageous. They came here to play a competitive mmo, all or most of the "tier 2" guilds refused to compete on this server bc they did not feel that the raid scene was worth the amount of effort it required. With the new PnP situation and a few additional tweaks that have been offered like reduced variance, no alt army camping/socking, and pre determined/random simulated respawns most of the activity they did not want to participate in has/will be curbed. However now we are seeing that these guilds are not actually that interested in competing on the leveled playing field that they have been wanting for years, they now want opportunities to raid mobs without having to compete with the established raiding guilds on the server at all. They feel that they have waited long enough to deserve attempts at raid targets that are not also contested by the guilds that previously made the effort to obtain the mobs they wanted. This in my opinion is a poisonous attitude to take toward the classic everquest raid scene.

[Tann]

I didn't read either post but this should be in the raid discussion forum if its about raid related things and since both posts so far have been walls of text I will add my own.

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[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt read your whole post bc it is very long, however I dont think that doljon's stance is that outrageous. They came here to play a competitive mmo, all or most of the "tier 2" guilds refused to compete on this server bc they did not feel that the raid scene was worth the amount of effort it required.

I think you misread the OP. The point said OP is trying to make is that EQ during the classic era was not necessarily the vicious competition seen here. Yes, the mechanics do create limits in ways that instances do not. However, during classic there were far fewer high level players. And of course we all know that variance is a pure P1999 thing.

TL;DR: P1999's endgame scene is not remotely classic, contrary to what some would have you believe.

[Pint]

i didnt miss read it i just skimmed it and assumed it was another post in defense of dividing up mobs and restricting who could engage what and when. i dont honestly care how everyone raided on their own respective servers in classic, i just want this game to still require coordination and effort beyond the idea of 'today is x guild's turn to engage trakanon for 6 hours then y guild can have a shot'. all of these proposals are silly, remove the game mechanics and situations that make competing so unbearable then compete. if a guild still doesnt want to compete, then dont raid. tldr; death to rotations.

[Jarnauga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HAEq1F0kX8

This is the only and true classic way to kill dragons.

Also BDA knocked down the towerz.