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Old 01-03-2014, 11:13 PM
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they mentioned new server... careful what u wish for... wake up to a new blank char select [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] oh the tears would flow
Would also destroy the trust of the playerbase and would make a lot of quality people leave.
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:33 PM
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u do know that hacks still work on server and massive RMT plat operations still run?

it was a good first run. accept that it can no longer continue after all the advantages and exploits, accept the great data you have, and start the real project.

its the responsible thing to do and would allow the cheaters to be caught. or are u against taking away unfair advantages cause u have one?
Wiping everything won't stop the hacks. It will temporarily slow down RMT. It would also render every hour I've spent on my characters fleshing them out to be wasted, and I know I wouldn't be the worst hit by that aspect.

I've been thinking on the subject a while as to what a plausible solution might be. Closest thing I've come up with is allowing a naked transfer, with a limited number of "exemption" items. Pick somewhere between 3 and 5 items to take with you. Epic automatically included, and your choice of (we'll say three) other items. Maximum two characters per account transferred, maybe with a level limit of 46 or greater to prevent mule transfers (gotta make it count).

This is all pipe dreaming afaic, as neither scenario will actually happen, and it would still be subject to abuse unless you made the items nodrop only. I would hope that'd be avoidable but I doubt it.
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:35 PM
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if we restart damnit, they better add Moss covered branch 5/15 2hb this time! Im so pissed it never dropped here....


or they could just release
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:37 PM
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if we restart damnit, they better add Moss covered branch 5/15 2hb this time! Im so pissed it never dropped here....


or they could just release !
I REALLY wish you guys had copied my sig from my server, I would have been a very, very bad person.
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:41 PM
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A wipe now would give us a last shot at a realistic timeline for this server. The whole economy and game mechanics have been altered in such a way that there is no undoing it at this point. Velious will help matters but there are so many existing geared toons out there and so much plat. And to think how many dormant accounts are out there with multiple geared 60's just waiting for Velious? If you think we have a numbers problem now just wait.

Also considering how much the admins have learned about mitigating cheating and RMTing, those activities would have much less of an impact on the second go around.

Wipe now and we may be lucky to have Velious completed in the normal time frame with raid content available when it was in the original. If the aim of this server is to be as close to classic as possible, I would urge the admins to reconsider this option, it's the only true way to restore balance to this environment.

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I'm sure the playbase would be just fine, this is still the best show in town for a classic MMO experience. Some may leave but so what, those are probably the people who won't be missed much anyway - the ones who thrive on domination.
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:44 PM
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:46 PM
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theres alota things that are great bout rules but alot def need some fine turning.

look way back at server launch, holo was the op guild for awhile. no1 could exp if holo was in zone lol. and even tho they got banned, they knew their stuff.

nihi then begins to mass invite, creating a zerg. which in time won over holo... that and nihi never got caught using that exploit that holo got caught using in sol b.


its part of the game fighting over mobs and setting up our own rules, so to speak.
if we cant deal with nihi or whoever mass killing every1, then instead of crying to gm's, they should b crying out for others in similar situtations and created a guild to work together. Thats what we got guilds for lol. makea mass team and then try fixing the problem.

i Hated it about eq live but looking back , it sorta made the game. gms would only cause change if they absolutely had to. they'd let players work it out , or not. as long as no rules wer broken, the game continued.

nihi clearly won and should get the dank raids, and the gimp players who cant get a raid going themselves, and cant coordinate around nihi then you're not ready for that raid.
it shouldnt be gifted. not every1 gets a turn to 'raid the pony'. by max level, only the truely dedicated remained. but now that the xp is much easier, we're getting ppl who are use to an ez ride...
look at alll the other mmos.



the players need to fix this up, WITH the guidance of the gm's.
dropping a set of rules of such great change, without huge warnings everytime u logged on, almost seems shifty lol.


theres gota b more resolutions to this. banning those who appose will only lower our pop. we need to attract more ppl here, to the PVP server. we had it perfect. blues went to blue, reds went to red. both had different views so we played ondifferent servers. now its like they're coming and infecting red99 with the blue. plz dont make it purple99.

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Old 01-03-2014, 11:52 PM
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I've spent on my characters

ur not going to handle real death very well i suspect. my condolences. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])
I'm getting the feeling I'm responding to trolling but I'll bite one last time for the sake of clarification.

I'll be fine. The real currency of an MMO is time. If I consider the most fun aspect of the game to be the high end and having a pixel collection, a wipe kind of adversely affects my enjoyment of the game, wouldn't you say? It would most definitely force me to look elsewhere for entertainment, and again, I doubt I'm alone in that regard.

Unless we're re-creating the classic test server and the subsequent wipe (which, by the way, was met with great wailing and gnashing of teeth), the most benevolent solution to those problems is either the creation of a new server or some sort of limited transfer.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:05 AM
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:06 AM
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What's the difference in starting a new server/wiping before or after Velious.

Think about it.

VELIOUS WILL HAVE BUGS

Will you be crying for another wipe because of this? Probably.

So the server should be wiped twice INSTEAD of having a brand new server when Velious is complete with the majority of bugs fixed.

Stupid.
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