More help for the staff from the greatest server of all time, Vallon Zek

[Smedy]

Vallon Zek was great, so much fun playing when 90% of pop followed rules but you still got that 10% of fuckery to spice things up

The teams part surely made Vallon Zek more fun for the newbies having someone to trust on your own side at the beginning, but towards the end it really didn't matter much

The thing i liked the most was that your reputation had a huge impact on your character, if you were labeled as a douche you wouldn't get into a guild, which was great cause that lead to everyone actually giving a fuck

Red Dawn shows promise where they boot players who break rules, nizzar speaks of doing it but he is only interested in winning and that means keeping numbers. No one is ever getting booted from nihilum unless there's pixel drama.

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing i liked the most was that your reputation had a huge impact on your character, if you were labeled as a douche you wouldn't get into a guild, which was great cause that lead to everyone actually giving a fuck

Much the same was the case on RZ, but it takes a certain mentality that is alien to most PvPers because of the SZ taint.

[Smedy]

i will have to negotiate new terms for promo video, i need to either

1 be on staff
2 get a mandatory aon summoned

until then i will continue to work on my sirken album

[Danien]

This absolute cesspool has little resemblance with SZ. The vztz crowd have by far had the most toxic impact on player behavior here.

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Danien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This absolute cesspool has little resemblance with SZ. The vztz crowd have by far had the most toxic impact on player behavior here.

Who do you think had a majority pushing for the server to be remade into a SZ server/looked to SZ and it's behaviour as the model to imitate?

Quoted for stupidity. You don't think the "anything goes save for hacking" ruleset had a little more to do with it?

And where do you think the whole "Take no prisoners, win at any cost even if it ruins the server" mentality came from?

So what you're saying is that vztz players are toxic

I'd agree with that, but heres a fun fact

95% of the current vztz players playing on red99 are in nihilum

This just goes to show how even a perfect PvP system won't work, the remaining population that is attracted to PvP is dominated by scum and has been since VZTZ reached its apex. It's the #1 reason why I gave this server a pass at launch and never regretted it, I saw the writing on the wall.

Now, if you could find some new untapped population of EQ vets to pollute all the crap in then Aenor's proposal or any proposal, even the server at its current state could work, but unless EQ is shutting down, they've all run dry.

[Danien]

Originally Posted by Beastro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And where do you think the whole "Take no prisoners, win at any cost even if it ruins the server" mentality came from?

If you're talking about SZ I would have to say it was due to the ruleset which allowed for all kinds of griefing, especially training and no level-range in pvp. I assume they made the teams hardcoded to strengthen their identities, which in my book is a good thing.
It gives you both stronger allies and enemies. You don't have to look over your shoulder while grouping, nor will you worry about damaging relationships when attacking other players. The problem was that the harsh ruleset that came with it attracted an above normal sized pool of toxic players, which in turn created a very hostile environment.

[Aenor]

Sirken flying out to Sveden to lay down some raps? Preorder.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i will have to negotiate new terms for promo video, i need to either

1 be on staff
2 get a mandatory aon summoned

until then i will continue to work on my sirken album

lol