OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, it seems the majority of every guild is siding more towards the point system than FE & TMO's system. I'd think if IB stepped forward and made something more toward the point system or agreed to something like the point system than that would be the majority of guilds accepting a new system, the only hold back would be FE & TMO. Who is to say that the server and staff wouldn't move forward without those two guilds if all the others were in favor?

You are wrong on your numbers. Just saying.

[-Catherin-]

You guys are a riot. Im all for compromise don't know how many times I can say it. Sorry you are so angry that I don't think this is the right one. Keep calling people who don't agree with you a socialist though you are just derailing your own cause. Good luck with this.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are a riot. Im all for compromise don't know how many times I can say it. Sorry you are so angry that I don't think this is the right one. Keep calling people who don't agree with you a socialist though you are just derailing your own cause. Good luck with this.

Im not angry about you not agreeing with this proposal, Im angry at your threats to stall negotiations out until you're personally satisfied despite you claiming that youre all about compromise.

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not angry about you not agreeing with this proposal, Im angry at your threats to stall negotiations out until you're personally satisfied despite you claiming that youre all about compromise.

This statement is completely fabricated. not agreeing to a flawed compromise is not stalling. its not agreeing to a flawed compromise.

and my personal satisfaction has nothing to do with it. Since my personal satisfaction isn't what is going to be the decision on what we all end up agreeing upon. I have no power to make any real change to any of this other than state my own opinion. You seem pretty threatened by that though

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This statement is completely fabricated. not agreeing to a flawed compromise is not stalling. its not agreeing to a flawed compromise

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll make this clear too.

Im more than willing to be raid suspended for a week, or a month, or longer, if that's what its going to take for a proper agreement for everyone. This doesn't hurt me. This doesn't hurt the smaller guilds. Taken looses the respectable number of targets we get but it also gives us a break from this toxicity in the promise of something better in the future for all of us.

Not sure if I can say that about everyone in the top Guilds though so you had better think about that.

Sounds exactly like stalling unless you get what you want.

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds exactly like stalling unless you get what you want.

So me not agreeing with this is going to make the whole thing come to a halt? Thanks but you give me too much credit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All im going to post for now anyways. I let you guys suck me into a non productive conversation and I'd rather see us all try to work together and get something useful accomplished

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So me not agreeing with this is going to make the while thing come to a halt? Thanks but you give me too much credit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not necessarily but you already stated that if that were the case you would be more than willing to do it. I dont get how you can possibly try to spin that quote into anything other than what it is.

Either way though I think I'm done posting on this whole thing. Time to go back to lurking mode and see what happens I guess.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are wrong on your numbers. Just saying.

Was not quite aware I posted any numbers, sir. I would like you to please direct me to the exact location as to where my analysis is incorrect and I invite you to correct it with the exact factual numbers.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was not quite aware I posted any numbers, sir. I would like you to please direct me to the exact location as to where my analysis is incorrect and I invite you to correct it with the exact factual numbers.

Check your PM's Stealin. Wasn't trying to argue with you.