OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it completely unthinkable that a category B guild can compete on the other 3 weeks of the month with tmo and FE/IB? They can compete right now if they want. We haven't gotten an Inny in weeks.

I asked Taken what toll it was taking on their guild in order to go after Inny in this raid environment. Other "casual" guilds can read and envision their own guilds in this situation and help answer the question above...

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you try to engage Innoruuk on equal footing with the top dogs, (aka port up at the same time or even before them), they simply train up to Inny, then train Inny and everything else back down to the ZI to kill him there. (complete and utter BS tactic btw and should not be allowed)

It doesn't matter that they may wipe in the process, because the resulting train will wipe all other competition too. While said competition is trying to recover corpses, they continue to pull Inny with everything in his path down to ZI. Once again if they wipe it doesn't matter, because it wipes those now trying to recover their corpses. The train is the insurance policy so that if they screw up on the engage, nobody else can kill him either.

Spent close to 4 hours one Saturday morning just trying to recover our corpses at the ZI because said top dogs could not risk anyone else getting a shot and kept training Innoruuk to the ZI. The multiple wipes made it pretty obvious that they couldn't kill Inny this way with their current force, but they kept at it until we gave up on even our own corpse recovery. We can't win Game of Trains. We were not even a threat anymore. We just wanted to loot our bodies and leave. But they would not stop

That led to the current environment of how we get Inny. There is no way that we can compete otherwise. I personally do a lot of the tracking up there and a server environment that has made these kind of measures necessary is BS. Im glad things are hopefully changing.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I asked Taken what toll it was taking on their guild in order to go after Inny in this raid environment. Other "casual" guilds can read and envision their own guilds in this situation and help answer the question above...

Any now inny is a sure thing for them and we don't stand a chance. Pretty smart strat for them imo. They chose a messy mob to go after, we have the same problems with trains etc. If they camp at VS room instead do you not think they'd get a few of those with no trains at all? Sev pull spot? They can still get every inny with this agreement, plus an even easier one once a month.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any now inny is a sure thing for them and we don't stand a chance. Pretty smart strat for them imo. They chose a messy mob to go after, we have the same problems with trains etc. If they camp at VS room instead do you not think they'd get a few of those with no trains at all? Sev pull spot? They can still get every inny with this agreement, plus an even easier one once a month.

Does her post really sound to you like this is something they (or any guild not TMO/FE/IB) wants to do long term? Catherin, as you are the primary tracker and you gave us a candid response... is it?

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does her post really sound to you like this is something they (or any guild not TMO/FE/IB) wants to do long term? Catherin, as you are the primary tracker and you gave us a candid response... is it?

Nope. I hate it. its absolutely no fun, and it is only done because it is necessary to get him at all. It also drives us into the ground having to keep up with it.

Getting the first inny kill with the two hour agreement and having to sit out the next one was a RELIEF to me