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Old 12-28-2013, 03:19 AM
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It doesn't matter how much time people WANT to put in... this discussion is being brought up on how to fix the raid scene for EVERYONE and not just the 2 top guilds... whatever solution is agreed on should be equal for all guilds that raid and allow for new guilds to be coming up... No one gives a shit if someone wants to put 1000 hours in or 1 hour in, if they show up they should have the same shot as anyone. This agreement needs to address passing of recently killed mobs on to other raiders and not just passing them back and forth between guilds that keep throwing around they are at the top guilds... wtf that really means.

Equitable sharing != Equal Sharing

It is reasonable to expect some ability to meaningfully participate in the endgame as a casual. Say, one repop every few weeks. Or, perhaps 7 days of no raiding from the hardcores.

It is just as reasonable for a dedicated group to expect greater returns from their greater investment.

Whatever scheme is adopted should be equitable. Equal sharing of raid mobs is a bandaid that does not address the core issue, nor does it respect the logic of both sides.
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Old 12-28-2013, 03:25 AM
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I wish we could throw full repops into the discussion, but without definite word from the staff that they're going to happen, it's kind of pointless.

Please Rogean, give us regular (not even frequent) full repops. Shit's classic bros.
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Old 12-28-2013, 03:28 AM
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I would be curious to see the outcome of simulated repops now that VP is train free.

I think that it would open up a lot of opportunities to spread loot around between more guilds.
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Old 12-28-2013, 03:28 AM
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Equitable sharing != Equal Sharing

It is reasonable to expect some ability to meaningfully participate in the endgame as a casual. Say, one repop every few weeks. Or, perhaps 7 days of no raiding from the hardcores.

It is just as reasonable for a dedicated group to expect greater returns from their greater investment.

Whatever scheme is adopted should be equitable. Equal sharing of raid mobs is a bandaid that does not address the core issue, nor does it respect the logic of both sides.
There was no mention of equal sharing... just that the agreement gives reasonable opportunity to any and all raids on every raid mob. For that to work there needs to be a hand's off time period on mobs you recently killed sort of like the 2 hour thing you got going now. People claiming to be so elite on here that only they can kill stuff in off hours what do you care if you bat-phone it 2 hours later after watching no one show up or even worse new raids actually attempting raid mobs.
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