Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[reborn649]

Posted this on another thread, but posting it here as well:

I played on VZ a couple years and anytime something spawned, it was an all out war to get first dibs. After a bunch of friends decided to go blue, i tagged along and it was all about who could get to what mob first and down it. We want classic, that's as classic as you can get. A rotation is no different than raid instances in WoW and earning enough points to down XYZ mob next week is about the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You guys wanted classic EQ and everything your arguing is not viable on a blue server. Go PvP if you wanna stop guilds from killing XYZ mob. If that doesn't sound fun, then figure out a different way to compete.

My point is, we all quit so many MMO's (for most probably WoW), because they became to easy and felt like a handout. At what point do you stop and realize we might be doing the same thing on P99 if end game competition is removed? Mobs like VS/Trak/CT/VP were always super competitive. Could "higher end guilds" back off of Talendor/Fay/Gore/Etc...that makes sense. But don't take all the competition out of the game or were back to easy mode, which will only keep things fun for so long. If you don't believe me, why aren't you still playing the last 10 MMO's you tried out?

We cant love EQ because its hard and then complain its hard down the road...no matter what is making it difficult at the time. Guilds, disagreements with camps, cant get X npc to spawn after camping it 24hrs straight, etc...

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Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Posted this on another thread, but posting it here as well:

I played on VZ a couple years and anytime something spawned, it was an all out war to get first dibs. After a bunch of friends decided to go blue, i tagged along and it was all about who could get to what mob first and down it. We want classic, that's as classic as you can get. A rotation is no different than raid instances in WoW and earning enough points to down XYZ mob next week is about the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You guys wanted classic EQ and everything your arguing is not viable on a blue server. Go PvP if you wanna stop guilds from killing XYZ mob. If that doesn't sound fun, then figure out a different way to compete.

My point is, we all quit so many MMO's (for most probably WoW), because they became to easy and felt like a handout. At what point do you stop and realize we might be doing the same thing on P99 if end game competition is removed? Mobs like VS/Trak/CT/VP were always super competitive. Could "higher end guilds" back off of Talendor/Fay/Gore/Etc...that makes sense. But don't take all the competition out of the game or were back to easy mode, which will only keep things fun for so long. If you don't believe me, why aren't you still playing the last 10 MMO's you tried out?

We cant love EQ because its hard and then complain its hard down the road...no matter what is making it difficult at the time. Guilds, disagreements with camps, cant get X npc to spawn after camping it 24hrs straight, etc...

Don't kill mobs then if that's what makes eq hard or "classic" for you. Most of us want to experience things we did or didn't do on live, and are getting super impeded by the few that think we should be competing 10x harder than we did on live to experinece it.

[quido]

killing mobs != killing mobs as much as the neckbeards

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Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

killing mobs != killing mobs as much as the neckbeards

The neckbeards have had their day though, no? Lets make some other people happy here.

[quido]

Everyone seems willing to play ball on significantly increasing the non-neckbeard share. Increasing it to the point of equal, though, is absurd.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone seems willing to play ball on significantly increasing the non-neckbeard share. Increasing it to the point of equal, though, is absurd.

But they've earned it!... oh wait.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they've earned it!... oh wait.

This is the type of talk that got you in this mess, cut it out, seriously. We're trying to discuss things like adults, not throwing backhanded insults out.

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they've earned it!... oh wait.

Yea. Basically, by coming to play this old ass game and be concerned with killing dragons, it's been earned. Take a step back.

[reborn649]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't kill mobs then if that's what makes eq hard or "classic" for you. Most of us want to experience things we did or didn't do on live, and are getting super impeded by the few that think we should be competing 10x harder than we did on live to experinece it.

So competition on live for raid mobs didn't happen on live for you? I highly doubt that's the case...

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Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So competition on live for raid mobs didn't happen on live for you? I highly doubt that's the case...

The competition is over. Time to share for the benefit of the entire server. What's called competition now is nothing like what anyone experienced on live. You know it. Stop. These people don't need to continue gearing. If TMO never killed a mob until velious out of protest, they'd all be back and gunning for and get most server firsts when SoV was dropped. I'd say 2 years worth of gear is enough of a head start to give everyone else starting now a real shot at getting some kills.