Lol, this isn't going to change anything.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still need Rogean to declare no training in VP and CSR involvement in zone.

Did you miss this?

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The no interference policy for Veeshan's Peak has been removed. Regular raid policies now apply.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you miss this?

He is just implying (rightfully) there is a reasoning why the rule changed and when it did.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He is just implying (rightfully) there is a reasoning why the rule changed and when it did.

Because the players got together and decided they were sick of that BS and the staff agrees?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=131739

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because the players got together and decided they were sick of that BS and the staff agrees?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=131739

Which players? How many? Did you include the 150+ in TMO? Did you include all players? Or just the ones who weren't willing to put in the effort TMO does?

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which players? How many? Did you include the 150+ in TMO? Did you include all players? Or just the ones who weren't willing to put in the effort TMO does?

It says right in the post. It's the leadership from several of the top raiding guilds. Is that not sufficient?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It says right in the post. It's the leadership from several of the top raiding guilds. Is that not sufficient?

It's not the first time they've done this either. The interesting time I like to recall is the time when IB and TMO were the top guilds and both got suspended. The guilds all came together and VD was like, yea we are the nice guys... and then shit all over every other guild for pixels.

Stop kidding yourself, people come together on this server when the threat of a rogean banhammer is fresh on the minds.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not the first time they've done this either. The interesting time I like to recall is the time when IB and TMO were the top guilds and both got suspended. The guilds all came together and VD was like, yea we are the nice guys... and then shit all over every other guild for pixels.

If you're talking about the time TR & TMO couldn't raid outside of VP when it opened... no one seemed to have an issue with the way VD took targets. We went one at a time... nothing died within 5 mins of spawn. There was lag and the repop happened at 3am... we left Trak up for hours and Div/Taken/BDA could have attempted... they went for other targets.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...&postcount=240

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It says right in the post. It's the leadership from several of the top raiding guilds. Is that not sufficient?

Nope. Because you are doing exactly what you complain TMO is doing. You are excluding people from the mix. If you are making a raid agreement it is probably a good idea to include the long-time single most dominant raid guild on the server dontchathink, I mean if not you really don't have a raid agreement at all. Trying to exclude TMO and others inputs just means that your "agreement" won't be respected.

I understand the whole concept was a 2 week solution to increase "PR" and apps, but that agreement has no longevity. Any rational mind can see that.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope. Because you are doing exactly what you complain TMO is doing. You are excluding people from the mix. If you are making a raid agreement it is probably a good idea to include the long-time single most dominant raid guild on the server dontchathink, I mean if not you really don't have a raid agreement at all. Trying to exclude TMO and others inputs just means that your "agreement" won't be respected.

I understand the whole concept was a 2 week solution to increase "PR" and apps, but that agreement has no longevity. Any rational mind can see that.

I apologize. This isn't what I was talking about to begin with. The staff disallowed training in VP when we expressed that we didn't want it to be allowed anymore. They may have been planning this for some time, but I think the agreement that I linked kick-started it.