If you think US Healthcare is anything other than an embarrassment, you're delusional

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Maddox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Technically my premium for family coverage is $175 and yes, my employer pays a good deal. Good point however, I guess for your situation, McDonalds doesn't pay as much of the overall premium for hourly line workers.

The overriding point of my post is that if you move past the wait times and general statistics that people here will twist to whatever point they want to prove, here is a real example from the past 6 years of what I've paid and my experience with the health care industry in the US. Health care services in America are high-quality, they are on the high-side of affordable for a wide majority of Americans, costs overall need genuine reform, and the figures of 2 year lower life expectancy than the top nation or somewhat higher infant mortality does not mean that health services are not excellent and that all Americans are suffering under the repressive weight of this overly burdensome healthcare system. Cost reforms vs. overall system reform.

You're funny. You're equating a business that is paying the majority of your premium (note, my employer pays my entire premium) and saying that it is affordable when you either don't have a clue how much your insurance actually costs or are purposely hiding it because it would deflate your entire argument in an instant.

If as large of a percentage of the country as you purport had employer sponsored coverage that's as good as yours is there wouldn't even be a debate.

[Maddox]

According to Gallup polls this month:

69% of Americans rate their personal healthcare coverage as excellent/good.
59% of Americans are satisfied with the total cost paid for healthcare
80% of Americans rate the quality of care as excellent/good

Bottom Line:
"Americans remain generally positive about the quality of healthcare they personally receive, their healthcare coverage, and what they pay for healthcare".

As I've mentioned before... Health care costs need reform, quality can be improved, but pretending that we are in an extreme health care crisis is absurd.

Langrisserx, you are an idiot. Your ability to add substantive content to this post has been impressive. Without your quad posting, shiny-object, stream of consciousness thoughts, someone may have been able to make a good argument for healthcare.

Then again, this is RnF... My expectations are probably too high.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Maddox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

According to Gallup polls this month:

69% of Americans rate their personal healthcare coverage as excellent/good.
59% of Americans are satisfied with the total cost paid for healthcare
80% of Americans rate the quality of care as excellent/good

Bottom Line:
"Americans remain generally positive about the quality of healthcare they personally receive, their healthcare coverage, and what they pay for healthcare".

Bottom line:
Americans are idiots and this isn't news, just because people are satisfied with their healthcare doesn't mean it's good. It simply means they buy into the propaganda they are fed and think Europe/Canada is somehow worse off than the US is when the fact remains, the only country we beat in healthcare currently is Haiti.