So how are ya'll liking Obamacare these days?

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Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yes, I'd rather have government by the People and for the People in charge.

This will never happen. Government bureaucrats are always out for themselves. For, example . . . the Obamacare website (the one that doesn't work at all) was done by one of Michelle's friends from Princeton. It was a no-bid contract. Her friend lives in Canada. Is this what you want more of?

Originally Posted by myriverse

There is a reason why the world is increasingly becoming divided into The Socialize Medicine countries and the dirt poor countries. Privatized medicine is an utter failure of a system.

The American healthcare system may not be a socialized one, but it's certainly not a free market one either. Aside from Medicare and Medicaid, because health plans are not taxed as income, everyone relies on them rather than directly purchasing services from their doctor (true insurance would only cover very large costs like heart surgery or whatnot). The health plans are highly regulated and have successfully lobbied Washington for all sorts of perks. In other words, we have crony capitalism.

Also, in my opinion healthcare outcomes = lifestyle + medical care. And Americans have simply the most unhealthy lifestyle in the world. You can't eat twinkies your entire life and expect the doctors to save you.

Anyway I do not like the American healthcare system at all. I think it's run by drug companies who are only interested in a steady stream of income, not actually curing people. Maybe you heard about the Tampa Bay kicker who had MRSA? Well the drug companies have basically stopped developing antibiotics, because it doesn't pay to actually fix people. It turns out all those mammograms and early breast cancer surgery we push on women actually hurt. The FDA is a pile of shit.

But what makes me want to fucking stab a pencil in my eye is the government going in to a field, whether its banking or medicine or whatever, fucking it up, and then using its new problems to justify more government intervention.