How deal with the insane run speed of mobs

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Dunes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not trying to be critical, but this is really not classic at all. I distinctly recall telling a friend to watch his stamina so that in the event that he needs to run for the zoneline, he can jump to stay ahead of the mob. More than once I fled the killing fields of North Qeynos, Fippy hot on my heels, jumping all the way to the guards.

You can still do this on p99. In the words of plato: ur doin it wrong.

[Humerox]

Yes mobs are faster on P99 than they were on live. This has been debated to death in the forums, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this.

The mob speed can't really be adjusted because if they slow the speed down in any manner, it becomes ridiculously easy to outrun them. It seems that the adjustment can't be calibrated finely enough or something, I dunno.

What I DO know is that once you get used to it, it's no big deal.

[Anaiyah]

Ya its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. You can get away from a mob for a decently long time by strafe-running and jumping a bit, with absolutely no run speed enhancements.

[MiRo2]

Hooray for search

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Originally Posted by Aeolwind

We'll be able to slow down mobs once someone fixes the fact that if they are slowed down even .01 they'll never be able to catch you. Classically; you could only outrun mobs by strafing or with sow/jboots/selos.

And to the person that thinks jboots were actually slowed all I have to say is "lol". That is a joke & a carry over from classic patch notes.

[Lazortag]

How is it different from classic then? Were PC's slower in classic too? What best describes the run speed of PC's/NPC's in classic?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it different from classic then? Were PC's slower in classic too? What best describes the run speed of PC's/NPC's in classic?

Mobs in classic, as a general rule, were about 5-10 percent faster than you. Here, they're about 15-20 percent faster. sow has a base run speed increase of 34-55 percent, based the level of the caster (not the recipient).

Some mobs were slower. I know for a fact that beetle-type mobs were a hair slower than PC's in classic.

As has already been mentioned, jumping made you faster as long as your stamina held. A neat trick is to jump from hills to get more air time on the jump and get a greater boost - but don't do this on too steep of a hill, because you'll take fall damage - sometimes quite a bit of it (i.e. sand dunes with steep dropoffs in Nro/Oasis/Sro).

[Tallenn]

I've never heard proof that agility affects run speed. I think the idea probably comes from how encumberance works: if you are encumbered, that DOES affect your run speed, and it also lowers your agility. I think that because of that people started incorrectly associating agility with run speed.

However, that's neither here nor there. Mobs DO run faster on P99 than classic- I don't think that's in dispute. There is a more annoying, relate bissue though: mob WALK speed. Mobs in P99 walk around like they are late for a meeting, or something. If I sic my pet on one that's walking away from, it will cross half the zone before my (running) pet gets close enough to agro it. Watch a mob walking- they seem to glide along, because they are moving far faster than their walking animation appears it should move them. On a similar note, mobs that flee, whether from low hitpoints or some kind of fear affect, also move far too quickly.

[Lazortag]

I'm 99% certain that agility affects runspeed. I have to encumber myself down to 76 agility to be able to kite spectres properly. I sometimes do this by taking off equipment that gives agility bonuses, like gilded cloth, but then again that also gives a strength bonus, so I suppose it's possible I'm wrong. But I do remember taking off elf-hide gloves to lower agility and that working to make my runspeed the level I wanted it (though I could remember wrongly, it just seems unlikely to me).

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm 99% certain that agility affects runspeed. I have to encumber myself down to 76 agility to be able to kite spectres properly. I sometimes do this by taking off equipment that gives agility bonuses, like gilded cloth, but then again that also gives a strength bonus, so I suppose it's possible I'm wrong. But I do remember taking off elf-hide gloves to lower agility and that working to make my runspeed the level I wanted it (though I could remember wrongly, it just seems unlikely to me).

The only thing that will affect a players run speed, in a legit scenario is:

Low hit points
Encumbrance
Movement effects (snare, spirit of wolf, etc)

[Lazortag]

Huh. If that's true then I should be working on getting a perfect ratio of encumbrance (162/99 is the one I use) rather than working on getting the Agi to the level that the 162/99 encumbrance gives me.

Will a ratio of 18/11 encumber me the same amount as 162/99?