How deal with the insane run speed of mobs

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by XeldiablosX [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes the mobs run a wee bit faster than live and as far as I can recall you could never outrun mobs for the most part without a movement increase effect, but its by no means unplayable at all hehe an aye I agree a bit aannoying. Still able to quad kite etc so ... I'm still not sure how a skeleton almost caught up to you with sow and a 30 second head start ... just boggles my mind lol.

One of the exceptions to this was beetles - they ran a hair slower than reg PC run speed.

I still don't understand why mobs have to run as fast as they do. I wish they'd run normal (classic) speeds...

[Dunes]

Not trying to be critical, but this is really not classic at all. I distinctly recall telling a friend to watch his stamina so that in the event that he needs to run for the zoneline, he can jump to stay ahead of the mob. More than once I fled the killing fields of North Qeynos, Fippy hot on my heels, jumping all the way to the guards.

Now, there really is no point (as OP stated). Your going to get hit, even with SoW in some cases (low level caster), so unless you think youve got enough health to make it to zone, you might as well pick a safe place to die. The motivation behind increasing run speed leads me to believe that there may be a grudge against kiters. Or, possibly it was an effort to take out people leading a train into another group of players (they die in the process). Whatever the motivation is, however, its definitely not classic.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Dunes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not trying to be critical, but this is really not classic at all. I distinctly recall telling a friend to watch his stamina so that in the event that he needs to run for the zoneline, he can jump to stay ahead of the mob. More than once I fled the killing fields of North Qeynos, Fippy hot on my heels, jumping all the way to the guards.

You can still do this on p99. In the words of plato: ur doin it wrong.

[Humerox]

Yes mobs are faster on P99 than they were on live. This has been debated to death in the forums, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this.

The mob speed can't really be adjusted because if they slow the speed down in any manner, it becomes ridiculously easy to outrun them. It seems that the adjustment can't be calibrated finely enough or something, I dunno.

What I DO know is that once you get used to it, it's no big deal.

[Anaiyah]

Ya its not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. You can get away from a mob for a decently long time by strafe-running and jumping a bit, with absolutely no run speed enhancements.

[MiRo2]

Hooray for search

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Originally Posted by Aeolwind

We'll be able to slow down mobs once someone fixes the fact that if they are slowed down even .01 they'll never be able to catch you. Classically; you could only outrun mobs by strafing or with sow/jboots/selos.

And to the person that thinks jboots were actually slowed all I have to say is "lol". That is a joke & a carry over from classic patch notes.

[Lazortag]

How is it different from classic then? Were PC's slower in classic too? What best describes the run speed of PC's/NPC's in classic?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it different from classic then? Were PC's slower in classic too? What best describes the run speed of PC's/NPC's in classic?

Mobs in classic, as a general rule, were about 5-10 percent faster than you. Here, they're about 15-20 percent faster. sow has a base run speed increase of 34-55 percent, based the level of the caster (not the recipient).

Some mobs were slower. I know for a fact that beetle-type mobs were a hair slower than PC's in classic.

As has already been mentioned, jumping made you faster as long as your stamina held. A neat trick is to jump from hills to get more air time on the jump and get a greater boost - but don't do this on too steep of a hill, because you'll take fall damage - sometimes quite a bit of it (i.e. sand dunes with steep dropoffs in Nro/Oasis/Sro).

[Tallenn]

I've never heard proof that agility affects run speed. I think the idea probably comes from how encumberance works: if you are encumbered, that DOES affect your run speed, and it also lowers your agility. I think that because of that people started incorrectly associating agility with run speed.

However, that's neither here nor there. Mobs DO run faster on P99 than classic- I don't think that's in dispute. There is a more annoying, relate bissue though: mob WALK speed. Mobs in P99 walk around like they are late for a meeting, or something. If I sic my pet on one that's walking away from, it will cross half the zone before my (running) pet gets close enough to agro it. Watch a mob walking- they seem to glide along, because they are moving far faster than their walking animation appears it should move them. On a similar note, mobs that flee, whether from low hitpoints or some kind of fear affect, also move far too quickly.

[Rael]

You could only outrun mobs without SoW by jumping